7DnBrnc53 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 You had to start a wide receiver at Quarterback in a game you had to win because of how not seriously he has taken all of this. Terrible decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Said it last night, the Chiefs are going on a Patriots level run in that division. If not for Herbert, that entire division would be a tire fire among QBs and HCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Ithink you can do well and fix Drew Lock and clean up some of his bad habits. You aren't doing that with Vic Fangio and the crap he brings in to run the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 I thought that there was a chance that Elway would resign at the end of this season since the team isn't winning, and Lock isn't exactly setting the world on fire. With this announcement, that probably isn't happening. I don't understand why. I know that he has another year left on his deal, but so what? I would retire if I was him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I think 2021 is do or die for Fangio and Elway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, August4th said: I think 2021 is do or die for Fangio and Elway The former: 100%. The latter: thing his seat is still lukewarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I'd give him 1 more season maybe with less injuries and a different QB. Which probably won't happen because a couple of average performances against terrible defenses have made people think Lock deserves the job for 1 more year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 44 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Said it last night, the Chiefs are going on a Patriots level run in that division. The Patriots went on a Patriot level run because they have the best coach in NFL history and a top 10 QB all-time is married to a billionaire model and consistently took less than he was worth. Mahomes cap hit is 5.3 million dollars this year. 24.8 next year. 31.4 Then it doesn't go below 39 million and gets as high as 59.9 million. Every team is going to go on a Patriots level run until they realize you can't pay your QB and still be good outside of your QB position. Seahawks, Packers, Eagles, etc. But nobody will believe me. 40 years from now when no QB wins while getting paid above 12% of the cap, people will still act like how much you pay one player on a 53 player team doesn't matter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I think it makes sense. Fangio is there to make that defense capable. I also think Lock is pretty bad. I’d honestly rather have Sam Darnold. I think Denver makes a lot of sense to target a veteran QB like a Matt Ryan or Matt Stafford. With one more year left on his deal, you’ve got to think this is it for Elway if he can’t produce a playoff team. Could make sense to see if they can execute a sign and trade/extension with a team that wants Von Miller (even if they’d probably only net a 5th or something due to age and his base salary), otherwise cut him before the first league day is over. Then from there I could see them go all in on a deal for a top quality veteran with the money free’d up from trading/cutting Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) I don't see the problem with bringing him back. His defenses usually take 3 years to get to that SF/Chi level of defense, and he's had crap QB's. Give Fangio a stud ILB, a healthy Von Miller + Courtland Sutton, and a decent QB, and the Broncos will probably be pretty good. Edited December 27, 2020 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Outpost31 said: The Patriots went on a Patriot level run because they have the best coach in NFL history and a top 10 QB all-time is married to a billionaire model and consistently took less than he was worth. Mahomes cap hit is 5.3 million dollars this year. 24.8 next year. 31.4 Then it doesn't go below 39 million and gets as high as 59.9 million. Every team is going to go on a Patriots level run until they realize you can't pay your QB and still be good outside of your QB position. Seahawks, Packers, Eagles, etc. But nobody will believe me. 40 years from now when no QB wins while getting paid above 12% of the cap, people will still act like how much you pay one player on a 53 player team doesn't matter. Playing in one of the weakest divisions in NFL history didn't hurt, either. From 2001-19, the three other AFC East teams went through starting QB's and HC's at a rapid rate. Edited December 27, 2020 by 7DnBrnc53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Ithink you can do well and fix Drew Lock and clean up some of his bad habits. You aren't doing that with Vic Fangio and the crap he brings in to run the offense. Good thing Fangio does literally nothing with the offense and Pat Shurmer has all the control. Edited December 27, 2020 by AkronsWitness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 38 minutes ago, Jeezla said: I don't see the problem with bringing him back. His defenses usually take 3 years to get to that SF/Chi level of defense, and he's had crap QB's. Give Fangio a stud ILB, a healthy Von Miller + Courtland Sutton, and a decent QB, and the Broncos will probably be pretty good. I mean it certainly didnt help that both Von Miller and Jurell Casey missed the entire season and they have been playing the entire year with a rotating door at CB because of constant injures to AJ Bouye and Bryace Callahan. The defense is still solid even without those guys The problem that needs figured out is Lock and Shurmer as OC. Do you sell the farm to go draft Fields or Wilson? or do you think Lock can take a Josh Allen type of step forward where it all clicks for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncos67 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Fangio makes some questionable decisions, but this is 100% the right move for Denver for a number of reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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