Superman(DH23) Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, mse326 said: Honestly it's not an obscure rule. It happens many several times every year. Yeah, I've heard the rule mentioned in a game at least 3x this year. Not an obscure rule at all. It was put in place bc of the fumblerooski if I'm not mistaken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Tk3 said: I mean.. do we have humans judging INTENT anywhere else? I guess if you ask me what the DEFINITION of a lateral is, I have a hard time disqualifying what happened from being a lateral Yes, also happened today. The "gives himself up" rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: Yeah, I've heard the rule mentioned in a game at least 3x this year. Not an obscure rule at all. It was put in place bc of the fumblerooski if I'm not mistaken. Holy Roller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Superman(DH23) said: Yes, also happened today. The "gives himself up" rule. the "common sense" rule. right, @bigbadbuff @Tk3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Superman(DH23) said: Yes, also happened today. The "gives himself up" rule. You ignored the 2nd and more important half of my post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, Malfatron said: the "common sense" rule. right, @bigbadbuff @Tk3? okay fair, mea culpa I'm just saying, it feels like it fits the definition of a lateral that being said.. I'm super pumped about the result, so idk why I'm dying on this hill right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Tk3 said: okay fair, mea culpa I'm just saying, it feels like it fits the definition of a lateral that being said.. I'm super pumped about the result, so idk why I'm dying on this hill right now Did he PASS the ball backwards? A lateral is defined as a backwards pass. A pass requires intent. How do we know this? The empty hand rule. If a QBs arm is struck and he loses control of the football before his arm can move forward, that is a fumble. If his arm is moving forward with control of the football it is an incomplete pass. By your definition you are trying to use a QB could never fumble, only pass backwards or forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refugee Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 hours ago, ET80 said: If I'm a RB who knows I'm about to fall short on 4th/1, I'm just going to roll the ball forward to a WR so we can keep a drive alive. This is similar to what I'd do... Man, featuring Grady Jackson and Samkon Gado in the same clip! I know you’re not a GB fan but you’ve brought a big smile to a guy who loves all the obscure underdogs on his team and this was a walk down underdog lane. Have a football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tk3 said: I mean.. do we have humans judging INTENT anywhere else? I guess if you ask me what the DEFINITION of a lateral is, I have a hard time disqualifying what happened from being a lateral Yeah. Intentional grounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: 22 minutes ago, Tk3 said: I mean.. do we have humans judging INTENT anywhere else? I guess if you ask me what the DEFINITION of a lateral is, I have a hard time disqualifying what happened from being a lateral Yeah. Intentional grounding. wrong on CLEAR intentional grounding, i mean without a doubt the qb was trying to ground it to avoid a sack, the refs wont call a foul if a wr/rb was "in the area" not intent. objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 After we make all forward passes legal can we finally get rid of the antiquated out of bounds? Stadiums are huge now and we're wasting all that space since the players can't utilize it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Malfatron said: wrong on CLEAR intentional grounding, i mean without a doubt the qb was trying to ground it to avoid a sack, the refs wont call a foul if a wr/rb was "in the area" not intent. objective. None of this is important until we make it legal to throw passes 70 yards past the LOS. Stop wasting time even talking about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Malfatron said: wrong on CLEAR intentional grounding, i mean without a doubt the qb was trying to ground it to avoid a sack, the refs wont call a foul if a wr/rb was "in the area" not intent. objective. That in itself is judging intent tho, too. But that rule is stupidly overcomplicated now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Norm said: None of this is important until we make it legal to throw passes 70 yards past the LOS. Stop wasting time even talking about it. The important question is...what happens if you throw an imcomplete pass 50 yards beyond LOS? does it go back to the original LOS, or dead ball right there? And what about the clock? I could see a WR catching a pass over the middle with little time left and chucking it oob to stop the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Malfatron said: The important question is...what happens if you throw an imcomplete pass 50 yards beyond LOS? does it go back to the original LOS, or dead ball right there? And what about the clock? I could see a WR catching a pass over the middle with little time left and chucking it oob to stop the clock. Which is why we need to drop the other bull**** and focus on important questions like these. We need to get the ball rolling on this as ASAP Edited December 28, 2020 by Norm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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