Bianconero Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 IDK what this means though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, Bianconero said: IDK what this means though Our owners are not great, but they're not nearly as bad as the Texans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I really like Lance & Fields, but we need to throw an offer for Watson. He's too good to pass up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel34 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: I really like Lance & Fields, but we need to throw an offer for Watson. He's too good to pass up. I think we either go after Watson or trdae down a few times to the teens and grab Lance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, jetfuel34 said: I think we either go after Watson or trdae down a few times to the teens and grab Lance. Yeah, coming away with Watson or Lance for me is a huge win. I'm a fan of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimuraGod Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Bobby816 said: When thinking of trade ideas for Watson... I cant help but think of that we really need to realize how valuable the 2nd pick in the draft is. When trading for a player of that caliber it normally involve multiple 1st rounders. But I'd guess that more than 75% of that time the team getting the picks doesn't know the exact pick when making the trade unless its a swap of 1st rounders and things like that. The draft trade chart is normally pretty on par or close to it on what teams get for trades for picks. Our 2nd pick is valued at 2600 points. So what does that mean. I'd like to think that in general when a team is trading for future 1sts they are assuming that pick will be middle of the pack. That's just safe to assume. So for example the 16th pick in the draft this year is worth 1000 points. Making our 2nd pick a point value of 1600 more than an average pick in Round 1. Why is that important? Bc it in essence Puts our 2nd pick at the value of 2 1st rounders at around the 9-10 pick. Our 2nd pick alone is the value of 2 top 10 1st rounders. So for those thinking we need to trade 3 1sts for Watson. Our 2nd pick is worth 2 top 10 1st rounders. So a trade of the 2nd pick and a 1st next year is the value of 3 1st rounders. Which is about what it would cost to get him. We shouldn't be offering anything more than the 2nd pick in this years draft and either our or SEA 1st next year... at max. That would give us Watson and still able to hold 1st rounders in these next 2 drafts. Bro I said this last week when we had the other fan in here debating on compensation. People online (different sites) have out together trade packages and all of them are putting us in competition with the likes of SF, Denver, Washington. Almost dismissing that our #2 pick and making it similar to their first round picks. I truly believe a fair trade for both teams is #2, #34 and our first and fourth next year. Houston can go get their franchise qb or trade back down for a bounty of picks. They could turn the original offer to a ridiculous draft haul if they did trade down from #2. Would love us to trade for Deshaun but at the same time if we traded our four 1st round picks over the next 2 years and mid rounders to get him I would be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel34 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, xenajets said: Bro I said this last week when we had the other fan in here debating on compensation. People online (different sites) have out together trade packages and all of them are putting us in competition with the likes of SF, Denver, Washington. Almost dismissing that our #2 pick and making it similar to their first round picks. I truly believe a fair trade for both teams is #2, #34 and our first and fourth next year. Houston can go get their franchise qb or trade back down for a bounty of picks. They could turn the original offer to a ridiculous draft haul if they did trade down from #2. Would love us to trade for Deshaun but at the same time if we traded our four 1st round picks over the next 2 years and mid rounders to get him I would be disappointed. No player is worth 4 first round picks. That is just setting the franchise back huge. I don't care who it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 We just need to hope he doesn’t go to Miami. That would be a disaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, jetfuel34 said: No player is worth 4 first round picks. That is just setting the franchise back huge. I don't care who it is. We had 4 picks in 2000(Abraham, Ellis, Pennington and Becht) I would have traded all 4 of them for Manning or Favre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 #2, Seattle’s 3rd, 2022 & 2023 1sts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel34 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, KingOfNewYork said: We had 4 picks in 2000(Abraham, Ellis, Pennington and Becht) I would have traded all 4 of them for Manning or Favre Looking back on it yes now but during that time you could not make that trade becasue the value is just not there. You are also talking about just taking a hit in one year where this trdae would last years with no 1st round pick. You just can't go for years with no first round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 My heart can't take it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, jetfuel34 said: Looking back on it yes now but during that time you could not make that trade becasue the value is just not there. You are also talking about just taking a hit in one year where this trdae would last years with no 1st round pick. You just can't go for years with no first round pick. Manning and Favre back then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, rickyt31 said: My heart can't take it. No secret that if we do decide to trade for Watson... getting FAs to want to come here becomes A LOT easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, rickyt31 said: My heart can't take it. OMG don’t give us this type of hope, are the stars really aligning for us in this way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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