MWil23 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 @Blue https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=7728 I'm not sure what RAS score you're looking at for Miller. The above link is his combine. You gave me some dude that JAX drafted from Nebraska/Omaha. This is the one you want: https://relativeathleticscores.com/2019/12/17/zach-miller-ras-8039/ Let's look at his compared to Bryant's: Comparable vertical, shuttle, 3 cone, and broad, with Miller testing MUCH better on the size component, and worse on the 40. Miller also opted out of the bench. The 10, 20, and 40 Bryant was WAY BETTER than Miller, earning a good speed grade. So: Size: Advantage Miller Explosiveness: Advantage Miller, but not by much as both aren't great Speed: Advantage Bryant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Current status in my discord with @Blue about Harrison Bryant's RAS score and me not specifying "which Zach Miller" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Blue said: You have a very curious definition of "effective" if sub 10 YPR and 17 total TDs in the 80 games since he turned 33 is "effective" to you. I never said explosively effective. That said, Witten was never a huge TD guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 This random argument over Harrison Bryant and subsequent fallout reminds me of a Town/Town mafia argument: Town: Blue Me Ragnarok (strong lean) Scum Read: Scoundrel (refuses to engage, content to let everyone else tunnel on one another) SCOUNDREL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, MWil23 said: @Blue https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=7728 I'm not sure what RAS score you're looking at for Miller. The above link is his combine. You gave me some dude that JAX drafted from Nebraska/Omaha. This is the one you want: https://relativeathleticscores.com/2019/12/17/zach-miller-ras-8039/ Let's look at his compared to Bryant's: Comparable vertical, shuttle, 3 cone, and broad, with Miller testing MUCH better on the size component, and worse on the 40. Miller also opted out of the bench. The 10, 20, and 40 Bryant was WAY BETTER than Miller, earning a good speed grade. So: Size: Advantage Miller Explosiveness: Advantage Miller, but not by much as both aren't great Speed: Advantage Bryant Miller was substantially faster and more agile despite being significantly heavier, lol. I mean nearly three points better in RAS is a really big difference. 4 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: I never said explosively effective. That said, Witten was never a huge TD guy. Do you think Harrison Bryant is going to be as effective a blocker as Witten? Because if you got a guy who isn't stretching the seam, isn't a factor in the redzone, and isn't a good blocker, what is he even on the field for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, MWil23 said: This random argument over Harrison Bryant and subsequent fallout reminds me of a Town/Town mafia argument: Town: Blue Me Ragnarok (strong lean) Scum Read: Scoundrel (refuses to engage, content to let everyone else tunnel on one another) SCOUNDREL I don't see arguing, I just see people who don't respect the level of athleticism required at the NFL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, Blue said: Miller was substantially faster ...what? Bryant is literally faster in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY on the straightline speed grade (97.09 to 91.09). Just now, Blue said: and more agile despite being significantly heavier, lol. I mean nearly three points better in RAS is a really big difference. And the point remains, if you think he can add bulk to his frame without losing the athleticism, it's a moot point since he's a prospect. I believe that he can. He's still super baby faced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that I was right and Blue was wrong about Zach Miller and Harrison Bryant's speed grade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: ...what? Bryant is literally faster in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY on the straightline speed grade (97.09 to 91.09). And the point remains, if you think he can add bulk to his frame without losing the athleticism, it's a moot point since he's a prospect. I believe that he can. He's still super baby faced. lol I was looking at the wrong box, you right I don't think you can add bulk to him without hurting his already meager athleticism tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Blue said: Do you think Harrison Bryant is going to be as effective a blocker as Witten? Because if you got a guy who isn't stretching the seam, isn't a factor in the redzone, and isn't a good blocker, what is he even on the field for. No clue cause this is the first time I have even thought about Harrison Bryant in a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: No clue cause this is the first time I have even thought about Harrison Bryant in a long time. As it should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, MWil23 said: This random argument over Harrison Bryant and subsequent fallout reminds me of a Town/Town mafia argument: Town: Blue Me Ragnarok (strong lean) Scum Read: Scoundrel (refuses to engage, content to let everyone else tunnel on one another) SCOUNDREL I’m working. Scum lean- Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Speaking of Mafia, do any of yall want to represent Football's Future in the Mafia Championship? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Ragnarok said: Speaking of Mafia, do any of yall want to represent Football's Future in the Mafia Championship? You should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, Blue said: you right Hey guys, check out my new signature! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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