Jeezla Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, EaglesFlySBChampsHigh said: Serious question. We've all been bashing Howie lately and rightfully so.. but do we really know how bad of a drafter he is? I know he wiffed on DK and Jefferson but a decent amount of people left here and are playing well. Doesn't this fall more on Doug vs Howie's drafting? Besides Agholor, the only ex-eagles doing well are DB's. I think it's more of a reflection on Schwartz. And i still don't think agholor is great. He's a nice big play threat, but doesn't get consistently open. A poor man's D Jax. Ultimately, Howie drafts like crap and our coaches don't develop players. Edited January 8, 2021 by Jeezla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wentz you dog you Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Besides Agholor, the only ex-eagles doing well are DB's. I think it's more of a reflection on Schwartz. And i still don't think agholor is great. He's a nice big play threat, but doesn't get consistently open. A poor man's D Jax. Ultimately, Howie drafts like crap and our coaches don't develop players. Agholor can get open... He is a solid route runner. Just can't catch when he does get open & his ball tracking skills are HOT GARBAGE down the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scalamania said: It's absolutely both of them - the DK and JJ picks were obvious whiffs, but both Howie and Doug deserve equal blame and that's why both of them should be shown the door. I mean I do wish both did get the boot but I can live with one more season out of respect for the SB Chip. Since 2016 Wentz was looking good till this year Isaac Seumalo Vaitai Countess alil success Jalen Mills 2017 Barnett Sidney playing well now Douglas same Gerry we hate him but he's been here awhile 2018 entire class was pretty sweet tbh TE Dallas Goedert Avonte Maddox JoshSweat MattPryor Jordan Mailata 2019 the rest is blah or TBD Miles Sanders 2020 Jury is still out but some interesting pieces Reagor Hurts Taylor Wallace hightower Bradley Toohill let go to soon I wouldn't say it's been the worst but not the best either Edited January 8, 2021 by EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wentz you dog you Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, EaglesFlySBChampsHigh said: I mean I do wish both did get the boot I can live with one more season out of respect for the SB Chip. Since 2016 Wentz was looking good till this year Isaac Seumalo Vaitai Countess alil success Jalen Mills 2017 Barnett Sidney playing well now Douglas same Gerry we hate him but he's been here awhile 2018 entire class was pretty sweet tbh TE Dallas Goedert Avonte Maddox JoshSweat MattPryor Jordan Mailata 2019 the rest is blah or TBD Miles Sanders 2020 Jury is still out but some interesting pieces Reagor Hurts Taylor Wallace hightower Bradley Toohill let go to soon I wouldn't say it's been the worst but not the best either Supposedly the medical staff gave Metcalf a NO which means you are pretty much forced to draft elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Wentz you dog you said: Supposedly the medical staff gave Metcalf a NO which means you are pretty much forced to draft elsewhere What was wrong with Metcalf at that time? I can't remember. Was he too good ? Lol Edited January 8, 2021 by EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, EaglesFlySBChampsHigh said: Serious question. We've all been bashing Howie lately and rightfully so.. but do we really know how bad of a drafter he is? I know he wiffed on DK and Jefferson but a decent amount of people left here and are playing well. Doesn't this fall more on Doug vs Howie's drafting? He’s always been pretty bad, predating Doug. It’s gotten worse with Doug’s regime for sure, which speaks to Doug not having a good scheme and the staff not being able to develop players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, EaglesFlySBChampsHigh said: What was wrong with Metcalf at that time? I can't remember. Was he too good ? Lol Medical and dumb nitpicking about his combine. He also didn’t do a ton in college, mostly to do with his medical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalamania Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Wentz you dog you said: Supposedly the medical staff gave Metcalf a NO which means you are pretty much forced to draft elsewhere This a save face excuse, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Kiltman said: He’s always been pretty bad, predating Doug. It’s gotten worse with Doug’s regime for sure, which speaks to Doug not having a good scheme and the staff not being able to develop players. Hopefully this is the wakeup call he needed. It seems like he got really weird after the SB. Especially in his interviews and stuff. Very cocky, goofy and nonsense. Like a combo of all 3 all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalamania Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kiltman said: He’s always been pretty bad, predating Doug. It’s gotten worse with Doug’s regime for sure, which speaks to Doug not having a good scheme and the staff not being able to develop players. This is true - who is the last good player we drafted? Lane? That was was 8 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Medical and dumb nitpicking about his combine. He also didn’t do a ton in college, mostly to do with his medical. All sounds like an Eagle thing to do. He wasn't drafted imo because every athlete has to be the greatest citizens and be able to speak the way they want them to.... Sounds dumb but look at everyone we bring in. Mostly everyone was on a debate team or some crap That's why we never really had a chance at guys like Lamb or a DK. Was surprised with Jefferson because he totally fits that kind of guy they look to bring in I can't even think of anyone that was brought in as a Free agent besides Timmy Jernigan that broke that mold Edited January 8, 2021 by EaglesFlySBChampsHigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 hours ago, EaglesFlySBChampsHigh said: Serious question. We've all been bashing Howie lately and rightfully so.. but do we really know how bad of a drafter he is? I know he wiffed on DK and Jefferson but a decent amount of people left here and are playing well. Doesn't this fall more on Doug vs Howie's drafting? They both suck. 2021 will be pointless with these two inept clowns at the helm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalamania Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, EaglesFlySBChampsHigh said: I can't even think of anyone that was brought in as a Free agent besides Timmy Jernigan that broke that mold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSean Jackson Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Howie should focus on pro scouting and Dorsey should focus on drafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, DeSean Jackson said: Howie should focus on pro scouting and Dorsey should focus on drafting. Howie should focus on being fired because he sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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