MSURacerDT55 Posted February 2, 2021 Author Share Posted February 2, 2021 Its a shame how underrated he is: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 So I've started watching some tape on the DL and Edge prospects, and I can't find anything on Osa Odighizuwa on youtube, other than the Senior Bowl 1 on 1s. Anyone know where I can see some game tape of the guy? His numbers are great. Also, was Marvin Wilson just a totally different player in 2019 or something? Did he injure himself in the offseason? Because he is not doing well in these 1 on 1s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 10 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Its a shame how underrated he is: True he is underrated but honestly he should have returned to school like Garrett did for Ohio State. Could have been a much higher pick, Jordan Davis and DeMarvin Leal are some of the top DT types in 2022 and really Leal is more a DE so outside of Jordan Davis and DJ Dale types Togiai could have been right up there and maybe even a 1st rounder. If some of these guys played this year it would be less of a question but honestly the likes of Twyman, Tufele and Onwuzurike those guys are all big time talents and could be in the 1st round range if they played good this season but they all sat out. Twyman I still have as a 1st rounder even with him sitting and Onwuzurike a 2nd rounder. Nixon has came on and not sure Togiai played better than Nixon did this year, and Barmore also outplayed Togiai this season and should really be a 1st rounder. Christian Barmore Alabama RS SOPH Levi Onwuzurike Washington RS Jaylen Twyman Pitt RS JR Daviyon Nixon Iowa JR Jay Tufele USC JR But sure some team will get a steal in the 3rd or 4th round with Togiai and a great value. But maybe if he works out good and since some of those other top guys sat, maybe he will go higher than they do. Who knows. I have seen some things where Twyman is a 3rd or 4th round pick which is ridiculous, same with Levi dropping that far but out of sight out of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Twyman would go top 15 had he played this year. I want him in Minnesota!!! I'm a Pitt and Vikings fan😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted February 3, 2021 Author Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Ozzy said: Nixon has came on and not sure Togiai played better than Nixon did this year, My reasoning for touting Togiai is that he did all of the dirty work that afforded tOSU the #6 run defense in the country. He was nothing short of elite in terms of run stopping but what makes him unique is he gave legit pass rushing threat as a 1 tech and has an outstanding motor. He is the type of guys who position coaches will love because he does all of the little things that makes a defense elite, the linebackers benefitted greatly because of him. Now as far as Nixon, I think they both had outstanding seasons but I think their style of play are different, I'm a Nixon fan though, he was explosive and never stayed blocked and penetrated a lot more. I think wherever he goes he will be a rock solid, dependable guy who wont take short cuts. But there was no question Nixon flashed more. Also, an underrated interior pass rusher prospect? Milton Williams - La Tech Edited February 3, 2021 by MSURacerDT55 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: Twyman would go top 15 had he played this year. Can't help but feel Twyman is nearly as overrated as Patrick Jones. Small framed with what looks to me like average to less than ideal arm length, just adequate explosion and struggles to stay stout. Edited February 4, 2021 by BrownLeader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 4 hours ago, BrownLeader said: Can't help but feel Twyman is nearly as overrated as Patrick Jones. Small framed with what looks to me like average to less than ideal arm length, just adequate explosion and struggles to stay stout. It's tough to evaluate all these guys that didn't play this year. But Twyman to me looks like someone who's gonna be an interior pass rush specialist at the next level more than a three down player. I have him as a mid second. But I mean, any of the guys that sit out could move way up or down my board if they have good measurables. Those are gonna be a way bigger part of the evaluation process than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 10 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: My reasoning for touting Togiai is that he did all of the dirty work that afforded tOSU the #6 run defense in the country. He was nothing short of elite in terms of run stopping but what makes him unique is he gave legit pass rushing threat as a 1 tech and has an outstanding motor. He is the type of guys who position coaches will love because he does all of the little things that makes a defense elite, the linebackers benefitted greatly because of him. Now as far as Nixon, I think they both had outstanding seasons but I think their style of play are different, I'm a Nixon fan though, he was explosive and never stayed blocked and penetrated a lot more. I think wherever he goes he will be a rock solid, dependable guy who wont take short cuts. But there was no question Nixon flashed more. Also, an underrated interior pass rusher prospect? Milton Williams - La Tech Togiai deserves to be touted, he is a good player but again I feel he should have return to school and could have been a much higher pick potentially and make more money right away. Mustafa Johnson to me is one of the most underrated interior pass rushers in the draft. He flashed 1st round potential as a SOPH a few years back after his one year in JUCO. Is a bull, great power and strength who can really get after the QB. Will be curious how he works out, is not super long but is compact and quick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 12 hours ago, Ozzy said: Mustafa Johnson to me is one of the most underrated interior pass rushers in the draft He gets little to no love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 10:35 AM, MSURacerDT55 said: My reasoning for touting Togiai is that he did all of the dirty work that afforded tOSU the #6 run defense in the country. He was nothing short of elite in terms of run stopping but what makes him unique is he gave legit pass rushing threat as a 1 tech and has an outstanding motor. He is the type of guys who position coaches will love because he does all of the little things that makes a defense elite, the linebackers benefitted greatly because of him. Now as far as Nixon, I think they both had outstanding seasons but I think their style of play are different, I'm a Nixon fan though, he was explosive and never stayed blocked and penetrated a lot more. I think wherever he goes he will be a rock solid, dependable guy who wont take short cuts. But there was no question Nixon flashed more. Also, an underrated interior pass rusher prospect? Milton Williams - La Tech Good call on Togiai. I liked his film better than Nixon's. It's easy to see Nixon's upside, but he is too easy to block when he doesn't win early and didn't consistently find the ball. He's more traits than skill at this point. Togiai really impressed me. He's a force against the run. His effort and motor are as good as it gets for his position. And he was consistently the quickest guy off the snap on that front. Impressive first step and reaction time. Plus, he does a great job of finding and pursuing the football. I see a player who will at minimum be a glue guy for a defense. He'll do the dirty work and all the little things to help hold it together. But if he develops more as a pass rusher, you might just have yourself a top DT. My biggest issues with the pass rush right now are his lack of a go-to move and his unrefined pass rush plans. If he progresses in those areas, you could definitely have something. He doesn't lack hand usage, power, effort, or a first step. I need to watch Milton Williams. He's on my list. Also, for those who haven't seen him, check out Darius Stills. He has a lot of work to do as a run defender (undisciplined and makes it too easy on the OL to seal him out of plays), but he is extraordinarily disruptive as a pass rusher. And I don't think he's anywhere near his ceiling in that regard. Could develop into a Mike Daniels or Jurrell Casey type player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 What is Tyman's draft range? 25-40? Who is the better Stills bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinebackerGod Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jeezla said: What is Tyman's draft range? 25-40? Who is the better Stills bro? Twyman's stock is dropping. He's probably going to be a 3rd round pick at this rate. Darius is better, but I don't think either one is going to be anything special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeezla said: What is Tyman's draft range? 25-40? Who is the better Stills bro? Dante returned to school, so I haven't even bothered watching him. I liked Darius's ability to penetrate. He needs a lot of development as a run defender, but a rotational pass rusher who can disrupt on the interior is still valuable. I didn't like Jalen Twyman. He's a Day 3 pick for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jeezla said: What is Tyman's draft range? 25-40? Who is the better Stills bro? That's about fair, I think his Pro Day is going to be huge. As long as he moves well, and looks a chiseled 295 - 300 that is a good spot for him, TBH, anywhere after 33 would be a crazy value for him. He definitely screwed himself by not playing this year, but he can still play. Geno Atkins 2.0 is my call Edited February 24, 2021 by MSURacerDT55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeezla said: Who is the better Stills bro? I think Dante gets off the ball faster and has a longer frame but wasn't near as strong or polished. My comp for Darius is Dwan Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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