titanrick Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Broncofan said: He was not. His biggest mistake in his rookie season was Solomon Thomas. But he's learned since then. His overall draft record is strong. More importantly, he has Elway's trust. So he can bring in fresh eyes, modern analysis - and won't get as much interference from Elway in implementing. Peters by far would be our best hire, given that we're not likely a top GM franchise target. That's what would concern me the most as a Broncos fan. I live in Denver and they played an Elway interview on 104.3 this afternoon. He said he will help pick the new GM and he will give his input ("I'd like to start off with a thank you to John Elway") into decisions in hopes that the new GM can "make the right decision". Then John spoke about all the big things he sees in Lock's future. I'm trying to figure out how you can make your own decisions when your recently promoted boss has an idea what the right decision is, and is responsible for hiring and firing you. What could go wrong?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, titanrick said: That's what would concern me the most as a Broncos fan. I live in Denver and they played an Elway interview on 104.3 this afternoon. He said he will help pick the new GM and he will give his input ("I'd like to start off with a thank you to John Elway") into decisions in hopes that the new GM can "make the right decision". Then John spoke about all the big things he sees in Lock's future. I'm trying to figure out how you can make your own decisions when your recently promoted boss has an idea what the right decision is, and is responsible for hiring and firing you. What could go wrong?!? I bet thats just going to transfer into 'If he wants my opinion then I will give it to him'. The only person I heard him say that he will work on (regarding contracts) is Von Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Dear Elway, Please teach Howie Roseman this move. Love, Eagles' Fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, EaglesPeteC said: Dear Elway, Please teach Howie Roseman this move. Love, Eagles' Fans After winning SB50, it took Elway the following to decide to resign: 1. No playoffs for 5 years. 2. 3 failed QB experiments post-Peyton. At this pace, Howie Roseman will be announcing his resignation in 2024. You're not even on QB #3 yet (well, serious QB #3 anyways). Edited January 5, 2021 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 This is the guy in charge of the ownership trust that has directed the ill-fated “win at all costs even if it’s 8-8” approach the last 3 years (was ok to think this way until after 2016 season). This is huge if it happens ahead of the new owner being decided on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Probably the best move Elway could make. He got too much credit for Manning's success in Denver and hasn't really signed or drafted too many higher profile players since then, but I think Elway should definitely still be involved with the team. At the end of the day, John Elway is the Denver Broncos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 On 1/5/2021 at 1:45 PM, Broncofan said: After winning SB50, it took Elway the following to decide to resign: 1. No playoffs for 5 years. 2. 3 failed QB experiments post-Peyton. At this pace, Howie Roseman will be announcing his resignation in 2024. You're not even on QB #3 yet (well, serious QB #3 anyways). I count 5 failed QB experiments post-Peyton - Oz, Siemian, Lynch, Keenum, Flacco - and one in the TBD But Not Looking Good category with Lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, AnAngryAmerican said: I count 5 failed QB experiments post-Peyton - Oz, Siemian, Lynch, Keenum, Flacco - and one in the TBD But Not Looking Good category with Lock. Siemian was plan B to drafting Lynch - I count that as a collective fail, not separate (it's not like he went in drafting Siemian to replace a guy, the guy supposed to be Plan A was a complete failure). Flacco was a terrible move, but it was done specifically with the intent of being Lock's vet standby for whoever he drafted (trading for a guy who already said in BAL "I'm not here to be a mentor, but a starter" - ouch). You know I've never held back in my assessments of Elway's failures, but you kinda have to lump them into 3 different eras....with this one still in play. Oz on his draft watch, Lynch on his draft watch, Keenum a deliberate decision to bypass the draft - those are the 3 that you have to pin on him in the books as complete fails. Lock would be #4, but to be fair, the book's not completely closed (but it's not looking great, either). Edited January 7, 2021 by Broncofan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 hours ago, AnAngryAmerican said: I count 5 failed QB experiments post-Peyton - Oz, Siemian, Lynch, Keenum, Flacco - and one in the TBD But Not Looking Good category with Lock. Also, I don't care what anyone thinks. Not giving Kyle Sloter a fair chance was also a mistake. You didn't have a franchise QB (or anything close to it). If someone looks like they may have potential, you give them a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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