CWood21 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 58 minutes ago, ET80 said: The players were productive names I recognized on the roster - but the goal here is to fill whatever holes you can with starters gained in the trade, and finding gems (regardless of position) in the draft. Like everyone has said - Quinnen Williams, Xavian Howard, Nick Bosa - about as untouchable as non QBs can go. So get that next level of player, build a competent core of guys from that, and then overlay that core with some young cornerstone-type players, a lockdown CB or a dominant edge or *shudder* a guy like Sam Howell out of North Carolina. (It makes my stomach churn knowing I'm looking into 2022 QBs...) I'm not sure trading for ANOTHER RB is the solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 59 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I'm not sure trading for ANOTHER RB is the solution. You're focusing too much on the names, not enough on the concept - fill holes so you're not using those picks to fill needs, you can then take the bpa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflbillsfan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: I wouldn't put it past Cal to send him to his preferred destination for less than full value. What is Watt's trade value? Hes due 17.5 mil on the 1 year remaining left on his current deal, injury prone, and 32 years old. Based on this and where they are at in cap I assume he is on the roster bubble especially with them being in rebuild mode and are 17+ mil over the projected cap for 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, soflbillsfan said: Based on this and where they are at in cap I assume he is on the roster bubble especially with them being in rebuild mode and are 17+ mil over the projected cap for 2021. He's not even on the bubble, he's firmly out. It'll break my heart, it'll break all Texans' fans heart, but this is the business. This is Hakeem Olaijuwon playing for the Raptors or Earl Campbell playing for the Saints - a city legend moves on, but will always remain in our hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, soflbillsfan said: What is Watt's trade value? Hes due 17.5 mil on the 1 year remaining left on his current deal, injury prone, and 32 years old. Based on this and where they are at in cap I assume he is on the roster bubble especially with them being in rebuild mode and are 17+ mil over the projected cap for 2021. Maybe a Day 2 pick at most. I don't think you're going to get DPOY-caliber play out of him again, and he's certainly not the 15+ sack player he once was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflbillsfan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, ET80 said: He's not even on the bubble, he's firmly out. It'll break my heart, it'll break all Texans' fans heart, but this is the business. This is Hakeem Olaijuwon playing for the Raptors or Earl Campbell playing for the Saints - a city legend moves on, but will always remain in our hearts. Yes I get it, it reminds me of seeing Bruce Smith go to Washington or Thurman Thomas playing for the Dolphins. Like you said it is a business and Watt will likely retire a Texan but you hate to see them on another team especially if it is a division rival. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, ET80 said: You're focusing too much on the names, not enough on the concept - fill holes so you're not using those picks to fill needs, you can then take the bpa. I definitely understand the concept, I just think the execution isn't right. You want cheap, cost-controlled players who aren't deemed "off-limits" by the 49ers. The problem is the Niners probably don't have a ton of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, soflbillsfan said: Yes I get it, it reminds me of seeing Bruce Smith go to Washington or Thurman Thomas playing for the Dolphins. Like you said it is a business and Watt will likely retire a Texan but you hate to see them on another team especially if it is a division rival. Watt is so much more than the sum of his seasons - he raised close to $40mm in relief funds following Hurricane Harvey, but he didn't stop there - he was "boots on the ground" during a lot of the cleanup and rebuild, and it was usually without cameras and hubbub of the media. He saved this city, literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: I definitely understand the concept, I just think the execution isn't right. You want cheap, cost-controlled players who aren't deemed "off-limits" by the 49ers. The problem is the Niners probably don't have a ton of those. Yeah, I didn't do a deep dive on the 49ers roster and contractual situation - if there's nobody like that on San Francisco's roster, they'd have to supplement with additional picks. I think we're saying the same thing, several picks + (insert upside players with team friendly/rookie deals). I'm not going to drive into this and find exact players because I'm still not in a position to say this is even a real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywindO2 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, ET80 said: I think we know how that story would end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 45 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Maybe a Day 2 pick at most. I don't think you're going to get DPOY-caliber play out of him again, and he's certainly not the 15+ sack player he once was. sure, but you're also not going to ask him to play 1000 snaps/season either. Give him 650 snaps and a day of rest each week and you'll have a very productive player and team leader. Julius Peppers 2.0 in GB terms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 This could be the start of a new trend if a trade does happen. Also, unless I am Seattle, KC, Buffalo I am interested in Watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/houston-texans-mcnair-privately-apologizes-to-deshaun-watson So, step one to recovery...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 It's like he's talking to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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