scar988 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Forge said: First team: Don't have second team yet. Put this here rather than news just because of hte discussion it should generate. Roquan and David got hosed. Younghoe got robbed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) Jaire Alexander over Ramsey for CB2, and Younghoe over Sanders, otherwise, looks like an accurate and solid First All Pro Team. Sanders should be the Kicker for the All Pro 2nd Team though. He had a phenomenal year. Edited January 8, 2021 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, MKnight82 said: Fun fact, Brandon Scherff is Washington's first All Pro in 24 years. Wait, really? That seems crazy if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, TXsteeler said: Was Kelce like unanimous or something? Why was there no 2nd team TE? Also, how does voting for this even work? Correct and fact that Waller didnr get any votes sucks... dude atleast deserved some votes so he could make all pro 2nd team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Kmart128 said: Correct and fact that Waller didnr get any votes sucks... dude atleast deserved some votes so he could make all pro 2nd team All the voters know each other, kind of scummy none of them saw this coming and planned for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Terrible defense overall + really bad team + very small market = Jessie Bates being left off. Fair, but I thought these were individual awards? The team shouldn’t influence voting decisions, and neither should the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: Fair, but I thought these were individual awards? The team shouldn’t influence voting decisions, and neither should the market. I mean they definitely are, but I can excuse the AP voters for not going WAYYYY into the depths to give Jessie Bates 1st-team All-Pro with those aforementioned factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 It might surprise some to know that David Bakhtiari (5) has more All-Pro seasons than Aaron Rodgers (4). Bakhtiari quietly building a HOF resume. Shame he won't be on the field with his teammates hoisting the trophy this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Watt literally leading in every pass rushing metric out there but not being unanimous is a joke. Tuitt getting one vote but Heyward making 2nd Team All-Pro kind of ruins the whole Aaron Donald should be unanimous narrative then as well (he should, but it shows the inconsistent practices with which voters vote). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: So the 2nd team TE position was Vacant... interesting. It's an absolutely stupid process because if a guy is unanimous on first team at a single-ton position like TE then there's no second team guy even if they have a dominant season like Waller. They really should force guys to vote for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team status, award a point value for where each falls on each ballot and then compile the teams like that similar to the NBA. Especially since 2nd Team All-Pro right now really isn't a thing and Pro Bowl berths lack meaning nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Kmart128 said: Correct and fact that Waller didnr get any votes sucks... dude atleast deserved some votes so he could make all pro 2nd team I mean, Waller shouldn't have gotten any votes. It's a problem with the format, not that actual voting result. Realistically, if they voted for first and second, it should be a unanimous vote for Kelce as first, and a unanimous vote for Waller as second, as they were the clear best and second best seasons. But I don't like the idea that someone should vote for a guy who unanimously had a worse season, just to get him on the all-pro team, just because the voting system is bad. That's how you get one vote second all-pro team players that some writer just wanted to get an accolade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, BayRaider said: Jaire Alexander over Ramsey for CB2, and Younghoe over Sanders, otherwise, looks like an accurate and solid First All Pro Team. Sanders should be the Kicker for the All Pro 2nd Team though. He had a phenomenal year. Ramsey was the best CB in the NFL this year. Point blank, period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Just now, BlaqOptic said: Ramsey was the best CB in the NFL this year. Point blank, period. How...? Howard had 10 picks and Top 5 cover corner, and Alexander was the best cover corner. Ramsey was #3 behind those two imo, still a great season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, DawgX said: Wait, really? That seems crazy if true. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/was/all-pros.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Just now, BayRaider said: How...? Howard had 10 picks and Top 5 cover corner, and Alexander was the best cover corner. Ramsey was #3 behind those two imo, still a great season. Jalen Ramsey allowed 20 yards a game... Let me repeat that, 20 yards a game and 2 Touchdowns. Those are Deion Sanders numbers but he did those in 2020. People get facinated with a non-existent/fake arbitrary stat of "Passer Rating Against" but the reality is both Ramsey and Alexander were better than Howard (allowing half the yardage and scores)... Howard just had a lot of interceptions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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