ovfd55 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Panthers just cut Kawaan Short,possible replacement if we trade Payne anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, turtle28 said: I like that. I like how Juju finished the year, he struggled for a while w/ just catching short passes w/ no yac as if he was a QB but he finished the year strong. Getting Robinson would be awesome, I just don’t see why he’d come here unless we made him the highest paid Wr in NFL history given our QB situation & also given that he’s never played w/ a good QB yet & he may take take less $ for example to go to a team that has a franchise QB. I am sure a couple of these WRs will be focused on the QB issue, but in the end money talks and there are more than a couple high end WRs so they aren't all going to teams with top qbs. Even looking at Godwin. He probably would love to stay with Tampa, but at the same time Brady isn't going to be there long term and when he leaves they will be in cap hell. Edited February 16, 2021 by offbyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 14 hours ago, offbyone said: I am sure a couple of these WRs will be focused on the QB issue, but in the end money talks and there are more than a couple high end WRs so they aren't all going to teams with top qbs. Even looking at Godwin. He probably would love to stay with Tampa, but at the same time Brady isn't going to be there long term and when he leaves they will be in cap hell. Godwin is my #1 bc of age, versatility and I don’t think he’ll command the contract that Robinson, Golladay & Juju will. Godwin and Terry compare pretty well together as not like a dominant #1 but a 1 b type and to have 2 of those and then to trade to bring Jamison Crowder back & then restructure his contract to lower his $11.4 m cap hit would be awesome. In the end we could be paying $12 million next year for both Godwin & Crowder combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Getting Mostert to back up Gibby would be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 20 hours ago, ovfd55 said: Panthers just cut Kawaan Short,possible replacement if we trade Payne anywhere He's 32 and can't stay healthy. No point to signing him really, especially with the talent still on the DL if we trade someone away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I think the big question is how many of these WRs get tagged and traded. It is a rare year where this is a reasonable option because the franchise tag went down this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 11:38 AM, ovfd55 said: Panthers just cut Kawaan Short,possible replacement if we trade Payne anywhere He’s Played 5 games the last two years bc of injures, no thanks. I’d roll w/ Jon Allen, Ioannidis, Settle & Brantley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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turtle28 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, ARTMONK HOF said: While I want Williams I’m not too keen on having another high priced player in the secondary. Collins, Fuller, Darby if he’s re-signed not sure we have to get the cream of the crop. I’m cool with Hookers... I mean Hooker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 12:47 PM, offbyone said: I am sure a couple of these WRs will be focused on the QB issue, but in the end money talks and there are more than a couple high end WRs so they aren't all going to teams with top qbs. Even looking at Godwin. He probably would love to stay with Tampa, but at the same time Brady isn't going to be there long term and when he leaves they will be in cap hell. I agree with you on this. The truth is, it’s kind of a fallacy to suggest that these guys need top QBs to put up numbers or be successful. Everyone needs a good QB to win consistently, so that’s always a related issue — but a top WR’s production is not extraordinarily dependent on high-level QB play. Look at Godwin, as just one example. He had a better season, in every respect except team success, in 2019 with Jameis than in 2020 with TB12. Pretty much across the board — more targeted, more production from his targets, more personal accolades, etc. Allen Robinson has never played with a good QB, so he surely understands that he can put up great numbers with damn near anyone throwing him the ball. Kenny Golladay’s best season was in 2019, when Stafford missed half the year. He put up solid production with David F. Blough and Jeff F. Driskel. Obviously, all things being equal, I’m sure FA receivers would prefer to land with a star QB. But all things aren’t equal — most of the teams with good QBs + a need at WR are pressed for cap space. The Ravens might be a factor, obviously, maybe the Cardinals, but there aren’t a lot of teams who can offer everything. I would think money and opportunity would substantially outweigh QB play in a FA WR’s decision process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I actually think the presence of McLaurin could be as much of a deterrent to these top FA WRs as the absence of a QB. We already have an X receiver, and he’s good and he’s young. If one of these guys comes to Washington, is he running the risk of being labeled a WR2 (or at least a WR1B) if Terry’s star, and role in the offense, eclipses his? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTMONK HOF Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, e16bball said: I actually think the presence of McLaurin could be as much of a deterrent to these top FA WRs as the absence of a QB. We already have an X receiver, and he’s good and he’s young. If one of these guys comes to Washington, is he running the risk of being labeled a WR2 (or at least a WR1B) if Terry’s star, and role in the offense, eclipses his? I know the majority of top WR are prima donnas that’s why you need to find one that’s not a head case. Need to find one that has the mental stability like Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 hours ago, offbyone said: I think the big question is how many of these WRs get tagged and traded. It is a rare year where this is a reasonable option because the franchise tag went down this year. Yeah, which is another reason why I think Godwin will be available and probably not Golloday, and maybe not Robinson although I think the Bears are over the cap so they may not be able to even use the tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/17/2021 at 5:35 AM, turtle28 said: Getting Mostert to back up Gibby would be cool. I don’t think we need to spend money there. Gibson is going to be a stud, and we have another year of McKissec. There are always a ton of RBs in the draft, so let’s just take one in the middle rounds and be done with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 On 2/17/2021 at 3:54 PM, ARTMONK HOF said: I know the majority of top WR are prima donnas that’s why you need to find one that’s not a head case. Need to find one that has the mental stability like Terry. That’s why the daft bc more of a key. Can’t be too much of a diva on a rookie contract anymore or you’ll be RG3’d & Haskins’d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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