Titans fan 617 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Could be an option if Butler is released A previous “Guy” guy back in the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdTitansFan56 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 44 minutes ago, deeluxx3 said: We barely got to see him and I'm not going to hold last year against him but I could not have been less impressed with Fulton overall. Did not stand out in the slightest in the very little he played. Hoping/assuming that the COVID offseason/injuries played a big part in it. But just saying. we need to keep Butler 100% with you. I didn't understand the disdain for Butler this year. He was he only player that looked like he gave a crap at times defensively. He has the dog in him, and if he was on another team I would probably hate him. That's actually a good thing to have in a defender. Cutting him saves us how much? Cut Adam Humphries use that money to go towards the dline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJM217 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 10 hours ago, MdTitansFan56 said: 100% with you. I didn't understand the disdain for Butler this year. He was he only player that looked like he gave a crap at times defensively. He has the dog in him, and if he was on another team I would probably hate him. That's actually a good thing to have in a defender. Cutting him saves us how much? Cut Adam Humphries use that money to go towards the dline. Butler was arguably our best player on defense, but cutting home does save around 8 million and cutting Hump only saves about 4-5 mill. Since we are 3 million over the cap and the incoming rookie class will need ~5 million. We need to find at minimum 8 million dollars from somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 I would sacrifice Butler to bolster the front 7, but that's just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 39 minutes ago, dtait93 said: I would sacrifice Butler to bolster the front 7, but that's just me As we saw with Clowney’s pass rush win rate (which was high) vs sacks (which were nonexistent), unless you’re adding a top five edge (which we won’t be) you need corners capable of covering for more than two seconds if you want to actually get to the QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTitan Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 19 hours ago, Titans fan 617 said: Could be an option if Butler is released A previous “Guy” guy back in the day We had him to until Jags up the offer. He followed the money. I think he is busted and not the same player. I can't help but see AJ toasting him his last year with the Jags and it wasn't close either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, KingTitan said: We had him to until Jags up the offer. He followed the money. I think he is busted and not the same player. I can't help but see AJ toasting him his last year with the Jags and it wasn't close either. Yeah, he’s nothing more than a depth player. A better depth player than the Joseph’s and Tye Smith’s of the world, but I’m not sure if he’s ready to accept a No. 4 CB role yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, titans0021 said: As we saw with Clowney’s pass rush win rate (which was high) vs sacks (which were nonexistent), unless you’re adding a top five edge (which we won’t be) you need corners capable of covering for more than two seconds if you want to actually get to the QB. There were also a plethora of occasions where the QB took a lunch break, clocked back in, and was still in no rush to get rid of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans fan 617 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, KingTitan said: We had him to until Jags up the offer. He followed the money. I think he is busted and not the same player. I can't help but see AJ toasting him his last year with the Jags and it wasn't close either. I forgot he was one of the PED guys at the end of the season Dont see the Titans interested this time around but who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, dtait93 said: There were also a plethora of occasions where the QB took a lunch break, clocked back in, and was still in no rush to get rid of the ball. After Clowney went down and Simmons burned out a bit, sure, there was plenty of it. Early in the season, it was a lot of getting torched by quick passes to whichever side of the field Butler wasn’t on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Note: Which isn’t to say that fixing the pass rush isn’t a top priority (though I’m not sure we have the coaching staff to fix it anyways) just that sacrificing our best player on the back end of the defense to try to do it doesn’t really make the team better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, titans0021 said: After Clowney went down and Simmons burned out a bit, sure, there was plenty of it. Early in the season, it was a lot of getting torched by quick passes to whichever side of the field Butler wasn’t on. I mean even in the early season before Clowney went down the QB still sat back there with all day to throw. It's not an either/or problem in my mind its a both/and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, dtait93 said: I mean even in the early season before Clowney went down the QB still sat back there with all day to throw. It's not an either/or problem in my mind its a both/and I guess when I think back to the Houston/Pittsburgh/Cincy games where we were just torn apart by underneath passes to the right side play after play after play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, titans0021 said: I guess when I think back to the Houston/Pittsburgh/Cincy games where we were just torn apart by underneath passes to the right side play after play after play. Didn't that have much to do with the corners playing so far off though? Trying to jog my memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, dtait93 said: Didn't that have much to do with the corners playing so far off though? Trying to jog my memory It mostly had to do with Joseph and Tye Smith. Or Vrabel. Or Bowen. Honestly, I have no idea what to put on the players vs the coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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