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Can Tannehill really lead us to a Super Bowl?


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I wasn't exaclty impressed by him today, especially seeing the replay where he had AJ wide open.

Clearly he's good enough to get us in to the dance, but what about winning the ultimate prize?

After seeing him perform in the playoffs over the last 2 years, do you think can truly lead us to a Super Bowl?

 

 

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Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff,  Nick Foles, Joe Flacco, Colin Kaepernick all led their teams to the Super Bowl within the last decade.

I have no reason to believe Tannehill won’t/can’t do it for us. I honestly don’t even feel Tannehill was that bad this game. 

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27 minutes ago, -Hope- said:

i think he can if we actually let him, which we sure as hell didn't do today. he missed some plays, sure, but the offensive gameplan was criminal today.

This! I'm literally about to start praying that someone hires Art Smith this off-season so we maybe we can get a better play caller in here.

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Do I think it is possible? Yes. Do I want to bet on it, na. I love Tannehill but it would take this defense becoming a top 10 defense, and this defense has trended down every year the past 3 years. And you see how hard it is to sustain great defense these days in the nfl. Then you factor in that Henry probably most likely had his best year as a pro and took the pressure off Tanne heavily. Henry will most likely slowly digress after this season. He is 27. It hurts cause I love Tannehill, but I believe the smart move would be to take a qb within the first 3 rounds and groom him under Tanne this next year, then after that we would get more of a sense where Tanne is, and the following year we could trade him or opt out of his contract. Sorry Tannehill has not performed in the playoffs in a way where I am sold that he can put us over the top. He has played well. But to win and give yourself the best chance at a super bowl your odds are better with a QB that teams have to game plan around. None of our opponents in the playoffs have bet and significantly lost on Tannehill torching them.

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Yes, he absolutely could. Could he carry us on a way to a Super Bowl? No, but then again, no other QB could. Brees, Rodgers, Peyton Manning, these guys are first ballot HoFers and they all needed the short windows and solid situations around them to reach that. We have a guy that for the past year and a half has pretty much done all in his power to prove to us that if we ever reached that type of perfect window and situation around him, he's capable of getting us there. I thought we'd learn, by now, that this doesn't come around very often and we'd do best to appreciate it while it does last.

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Not sure if he can “lead” 

Not sure they attempt to let him “lead”

But he’s good enough to win one 

Things around him still need to be better but he’s capable of winning it all

Not sure how far away we are from even getting to one with these coaches and personnel 

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Probably. But I’m not sure we’ll ever let him have a chance to do so. At least not without a major philosophical change.

Just as a note on the interception. AJ said after the game that the play had him running a slant and he took off once he won at the LOS. If it was a called go, I could blame RT for not at least giving him a glance. But if you have a throw available to your first read for 15+ yards (and that throw was there if Raymond stays on his feet), I just can’t fault Tannehill for not moving to his second read, which is supposed to just be an underneath route. It hurts badly given just how much AJ won on that play, but I’m not sure it’s a reasonable ask.

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6 hours ago, -Hope- said:

i think he can if we actually let him, which we sure as hell didn't do today. he missed some plays, sure, but the offensive gameplan was criminal today.

Agreed.  I don't know how they didn't give the ball to Henry either time when we needed two yards to convert, but the end game, which we were still in, should have seen us handing off to Henry.  He's our offense, and he should be the feature.  The question really is can we ride a Henry offense to the Super Bowl.

Tannehill didn't play stellar, but he wasn't a liability. 

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Yes he can be our super bowl qb. 

The offense has to grow to be more than Henry. 

Henry is the man. 

But if we are routinely gonna depend on him to have 28-30 carries for us to win we will find ourselves in this position more than not. .

Yeah we might catch the right team or defense might be good enough to make a run like we did last year. 

But this year was Soo clear. If Henry doesn't play well or run well the Titans will lose. 

Football has to be about more than one player. A Megastar QB carry a team a lot but Watson ( who again I think isn't all world, but is a franchise QB) could only do so much by himself. 

Tanny can be our qb to get us to the super bowl. But him alone isn't carrying us. Just as Herny alone can't carry us. 

An ok defense can stop one player.  A good defense can erase one player. Like today. 

Smith or his replacement must realize that we have to do more then play action and 3rd down passes. 

Either that or get more playmakers to run this style. Henry and Brown can't be the only ones. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Maybe when we understand that running the football doesn't even have a quarter of the impact passing the ball does and we stop bashing our head in to a wall just because we get off on Henry carrying the ball.

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9 minutes ago, TitanLegend said:

Maybe when we understand that running the football doesn't even have a quarter of the impact passing the ball does and we stop bashing our head in to a wall just because we get off on Henry carrying the ball.

#3 offense in the NFL and somehow, some way, we still manage to be an absolute stone age NFL team. unreal.

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2 hours ago, -Hope- said:

#3 offense in the NFL and somehow, some way, we still manage to be an absolute stone age NFL team. unreal.

I dunno if it's an Arthur Smith thing or a Vrabel thing, but we've done it back to back years now of going from what was, sure, I guess a more run centric offense in the regular season, but still plenty of thrown in early down passing for the most part, to stone age offense in the playoffs.

Either Vrabel or Smith get/got scared and went conservative for the playoffs.

Unfortunately I'm pretty sure it's a Vrabel thing. Hopefully he learns from it.

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10 minutes ago, TitanLegend said:

I dunno if it's an Arthur Smith thing or a Vrabel thing, but we've done it back to back years now of going from what was, sure, I guess a more run centric offense in the regular season, but still plenty of thrown in early down passing for the most part, to stone age offense in the playoffs.

Either Vrabel or Smith get/got scared and went conservative for the playoffs.

Unfortunately I'm pretty sure it's a Vrabel thing. Hopefully he learns from it.

yep, definitely a pattern at this point and i agree that it’s likely a vrabel thing. unfortunately he hasn’t given off the impression of being terribly malleable. he has a lot of reflection and pride-swallowing to do if he ever wants to win a lombardi as a coach. if not, i could see pretty serious regression as soon as next year. 

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