Nextyearfordaboyz 887 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, Northland said: Plan I think you will see Wentz flourish in Indy. Solid HC, solid staff, great OL and they can run the ball. Wentz regressed n Philly big time, but it's been revealed he had a toxic relationship with Pederson, and he really got beat up physically. I'll put it this way if he can't make it work in Indy I don't know if he can be resurrected. I can't think of a better spot for him than the Colts. Wentz regressed to a degree perhaps never seen in NFL history. Eagles were lucky to get out of that contract. I think Indy got ripped off here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Northland 638 Posted Saturday at 06:35 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:35 PM 20 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Wentz regressed to a degree perhaps never seen in NFL history. Eagles were lucky to get out of that contract. I think Indy got ripped off here. It's a fair point/argument. It is staggering that a guy who would have been MVP had he not been hurt regressed so much. Conversely, you have to have some talent to produce like he did during that season. I think Indy gets him back on the right track. As I said if Indy can't I don't know of any other team or environment that would be able to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nextyearfordaboyz 887 Posted Saturday at 06:41 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:41 PM 4 minutes ago, Northland said: It's a fair point/argument. It is staggering that a guy who would have been MVP had he not been hurt regressed so much. Conversely, you have to have some talent to produce like he did during that season. I think Indy gets him back on the right track. As I said if Indy can't I don't know of any other team or environment that would be able to. Maybe he works out to Indy, but his value to Philly was nothing. They absolutely had to get him out of the building. I did not expect them to get as much as they did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matt79511 515 Posted Saturday at 09:19 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:19 PM Yeah way too many people treat Wentz as the guy who was great for 12 games four years ago and not the guy whose presence poisoned their locker room because his teammates despised him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Northland 638 Posted Sunday at 02:45 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:45 PM 20 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Maybe he works out to Indy, but his value to Philly was nothing. They absolutely had to get him out of the building. I did not expect them to get as much as they did. Agree with the situation in Philly. I wasn't aware that he and Pederson were not speaking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buddy_z34 229 Posted Monday at 07:01 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:01 AM On 2/19/2021 at 1:39 PM, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Wentz regressed to a degree perhaps never seen in NFL history. Eagles were lucky to get out of that contract. I think Indy got ripped off here. Some people dont have the mental fortitude to get over an injury. As the saying goes, football is 10% physical an 90% mental. Do you think that may have caused his regression? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atran35 75 Posted Monday at 01:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:29 PM Was hoping he stayed for another year or 2 with Philly and implode them further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WizardHawk 1,870 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) Extensive article on The Athletic site about the growing rift between RW and Seattle, Carroll specifically. Edited 17 hours ago by WizardHawk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plan9misfit 1,403 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, WizardHawk said: Extensive article on The Athletic site about the growing rift between RW and Seattle, Carroll specifically. Well, when you run an archaic offense with no interest in providing your QB with an offensive line or legitimate RB, they tend to get upset. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Slamman 613 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 5 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Well, when you run an archaic offense with no interest in providing your QB with an offensive line or legitimate RB, they tend to get upset. In this case, IMO, Wilson is the victim of his own success. I think very highly of Wilson as a player. But, he lacks the foresight of Tom Brady. Wilson insisted on being the highest paid player in the nfl. He got what he wanted. And, to a large degree it worked out for Seahawks as they routinely make the playoffs. But, all they paid to Wilson comes at the expense of putting together a good OL. Brady was rarely paid in the top 10 QBs and he always had a good, serviceable OL. Wilson chose money over protection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D82 2,836 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, The_Slamman said: In this case, IMO, Wilson is the victim of his own success. I think very highly of Wilson as a player. But, he lacks the foresight of Tom Brady. Wilson insisted on being the highest paid player in the nfl. He got what he wanted. And, to a large degree it worked out for Seahawks as they routinely make the playoffs. But, all they paid to Wilson comes at the expense of putting together a good OL. Brady was rarely paid in the top 10 QBs and he always had a good, serviceable OL. Wilson chose money over protection. They haven't exactly drafted OL well either... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plan9misfit 1,403 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, The_Slamman said: In this case, IMO, Wilson is the victim of his own success. I think very highly of Wilson as a player. But, he lacks the foresight of Tom Brady. Wilson insisted on being the highest paid player in the nfl. He got what he wanted. And, to a large degree it worked out for Seahawks as they routinely make the playoffs. But, all they paid to Wilson comes at the expense of putting together a good OL. Brady was rarely paid in the top 10 QBs and he always had a good, serviceable OL. Wilson chose money over protection. Wait...you mean that overpaying a QB, even one as gifted as Russell Wilson, could be bad for the team overall due to it losing the ability to pay players at other positions? Say it isn’t so!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CAPJ 430 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, plan9misfit said: Wait...you mean that overpaying a QB, even one as gifted as Russell Wilson, could be bad for the team overall due to it losing the ability to pay players at other positions? Say it isn’t so!! I'd say it is more about drafting. Their 1st round draft picks have been abysmal. If you are going to pay players top money, you need to hit on your picks. Something Seattle has not done well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WizardHawk 1,870 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, CAPJ said: I'd say it is more about drafting. Their 1st round draft picks have been abysmal. If you are going to pay players top money, you need to hit on your picks. Something Seattle has not done well. Their past 6-7 drafts have produced next to nothing. They’ve hit on only a handful of picks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CAPJ 430 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 8 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: Their past 6-7 drafts have produced next to nothing. They’ve hit on only a handful of picks. Exactly. Outside of DK, I'm not sure of anyone they took in Rd 1 or 2 that is even decent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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