Nextyearfordaboyz Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Northland said: Plan I think you will see Wentz flourish in Indy. Solid HC, solid staff, great OL and they can run the ball. Wentz regressed n Philly big time, but it's been revealed he had a toxic relationship with Pederson, and he really got beat up physically. I'll put it this way if he can't make it work in Indy I don't know if he can be resurrected. I can't think of a better spot for him than the Colts. Wentz regressed to a degree perhaps never seen in NFL history. Eagles were lucky to get out of that contract. I think Indy got ripped off here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northland Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 20 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Wentz regressed to a degree perhaps never seen in NFL history. Eagles were lucky to get out of that contract. I think Indy got ripped off here. It's a fair point/argument. It is staggering that a guy who would have been MVP had he not been hurt regressed so much. Conversely, you have to have some talent to produce like he did during that season. I think Indy gets him back on the right track. As I said if Indy can't I don't know of any other team or environment that would be able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Northland said: It's a fair point/argument. It is staggering that a guy who would have been MVP had he not been hurt regressed so much. Conversely, you have to have some talent to produce like he did during that season. I think Indy gets him back on the right track. As I said if Indy can't I don't know of any other team or environment that would be able to. Maybe he works out to Indy, but his value to Philly was nothing. They absolutely had to get him out of the building. I did not expect them to get as much as they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Yeah way too many people treat Wentz as the guy who was great for 12 games four years ago and not the guy whose presence poisoned their locker room because his teammates despised him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northland Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 20 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Maybe he works out to Indy, but his value to Philly was nothing. They absolutely had to get him out of the building. I did not expect them to get as much as they did. Agree with the situation in Philly. I wasn't aware that he and Pederson were not speaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_z34 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 2/19/2021 at 1:39 PM, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Wentz regressed to a degree perhaps never seen in NFL history. Eagles were lucky to get out of that contract. I think Indy got ripped off here. Some people dont have the mental fortitude to get over an injury. As the saying goes, football is 10% physical an 90% mental. Do you think that may have caused his regression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atran35 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Was hoping he stayed for another year or 2 with Philly and implode them further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) Extensive article on The Athletic site about the growing rift between RW and Seattle, Carroll specifically. Edited February 25, 2021 by WizardHawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 hour ago, WizardHawk said: Extensive article on The Athletic site about the growing rift between RW and Seattle, Carroll specifically. Well, when you run an archaic offense with no interest in providing your QB with an offensive line or legitimate RB, they tend to get upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Slamman Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 5 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Well, when you run an archaic offense with no interest in providing your QB with an offensive line or legitimate RB, they tend to get upset. In this case, IMO, Wilson is the victim of his own success. I think very highly of Wilson as a player. But, he lacks the foresight of Tom Brady. Wilson insisted on being the highest paid player in the nfl. He got what he wanted. And, to a large degree it worked out for Seahawks as they routinely make the playoffs. But, all they paid to Wilson comes at the expense of putting together a good OL. Brady was rarely paid in the top 10 QBs and he always had a good, serviceable OL. Wilson chose money over protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, The_Slamman said: In this case, IMO, Wilson is the victim of his own success. I think very highly of Wilson as a player. But, he lacks the foresight of Tom Brady. Wilson insisted on being the highest paid player in the nfl. He got what he wanted. And, to a large degree it worked out for Seahawks as they routinely make the playoffs. But, all they paid to Wilson comes at the expense of putting together a good OL. Brady was rarely paid in the top 10 QBs and he always had a good, serviceable OL. Wilson chose money over protection. They haven't exactly drafted OL well either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 hours ago, The_Slamman said: In this case, IMO, Wilson is the victim of his own success. I think very highly of Wilson as a player. But, he lacks the foresight of Tom Brady. Wilson insisted on being the highest paid player in the nfl. He got what he wanted. And, to a large degree it worked out for Seahawks as they routinely make the playoffs. But, all they paid to Wilson comes at the expense of putting together a good OL. Brady was rarely paid in the top 10 QBs and he always had a good, serviceable OL. Wilson chose money over protection. Wait...you mean that overpaying a QB, even one as gifted as Russell Wilson, could be bad for the team overall due to it losing the ability to pay players at other positions? Say it isn’t so!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, plan9misfit said: Wait...you mean that overpaying a QB, even one as gifted as Russell Wilson, could be bad for the team overall due to it losing the ability to pay players at other positions? Say it isn’t so!! I'd say it is more about drafting. Their 1st round draft picks have been abysmal. If you are going to pay players top money, you need to hit on your picks. Something Seattle has not done well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, CAPJ said: I'd say it is more about drafting. Their 1st round draft picks have been abysmal. If you are going to pay players top money, you need to hit on your picks. Something Seattle has not done well. Their past 6-7 drafts have produced next to nothing. They’ve hit on only a handful of picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: Their past 6-7 drafts have produced next to nothing. They’ve hit on only a handful of picks. Exactly. Outside of DK, I'm not sure of anyone they took in Rd 1 or 2 that is even decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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