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The Jags signed Marvin Jones for 5 years, $82 million, with a $35 million signing bonus? Was there a typo in there somewhere? If the Lions resigned him for half of that IRL the fans would burn down the stadium. 

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Just now, winitall said:

The Jags signed Marvin Jones for 5 years, $82 million, with a $35 million signing bonus? Was there a typo in there somewhere? If the Lions gave him half of that IRL the fans would burn down the stadium. 

Jags are pulling out all the stops to make sure that Trevor Lawrence succeeds.

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40 minutes ago, JetsandI said:

 

Correct.   Still legal action is a possibility. 

Signing bonuses are considered an advance on salary and have to be earned. Teams sometimes don't clawback signing bonus for long time players. The Saints certainly won't ask Brees for money back as the signing bonus still on their cap was simply the product of turning salary into bonus for cap flexibility.

 

But for players who haven't restructured, teams do ask for the unearned portion of the bonus back. Ask Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson about the Lions approach.

 

For Iupati, who just signed in the mock and hasn't earned anything, the Hawks should get back whatever they paid him. 

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47 minutes ago, JetsandI said:

Carson got more than 30m... Zero chance. lol.

33 minutes ago, winitall said:

The Jags signed Marvin Jones for 5 years, $82 million, with a $35 million signing bonus? Was there a typo in there somewhere? If the Lions resigned him for half of that IRL the fans would burn down the stadium. 

Year one is all that matters to me. The both of them will only cost $13.9M combined against the 2021 cap. For a team that started with ~80M in space, it's all funny money to get the guys we want in. All that extra money in future years is a problem for non-existent future Jaguars to worry about.

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22 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

Signing bonuses are considered an advance on salary and have to be earned. Teams sometimes don't clawback signing bonus for long time players. The Saints certainly won't ask Brees for money back as the signing bonus still on their cap was simply the product of turning salary into bonus for cap flexibility.

But for players who haven't restructured, teams do ask for the unearned portion of the bonus back. Ask Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson about the Lions approach.

For Iupati, who just signed in the mock and hasn't earned anything, the Hawks should get back whatever they paid him. 

I hear you, but just because it sounds like the right thing to do or a simple request.  Adding and removing players takes time to update.  Because someone decided it was a good idea to target a veteran well past his prime, isn't really my fault.  

Releasing him under the guidelines that I created, the team earned back a million of that contract.

 

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5 minutes ago, pwny said:

Year one is all that matters to me. The both of them will only cost $13.9M combined against the 2021 cap. For a team that started with ~80M in space, it's all funny money to get the guys we want in. All that extra money in future years is a problem for non-existent future Jaguars to worry about.

Agreed...If the future years were part of the mock, I'm sure it might be a different situation.  They act like you're the only team doing this...haha.

 

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5 minutes ago, ny92mike said:

Agreed...If the future years were part of the mock, I'm sure it might be a different situation.  They act like you're the only team doing this...haha.

i don't know why guys wouldn't wanna try and put the team in the best position possible going forward. guess there's the crowd that's like this is a mock, i'm just gonna go wild and get guys and then others that get their kicks or whatever from trying to maintain future assets/flexibility 

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1 minute ago, FinneasGage said:

i don't know why guys wouldn't wanna try and put the team in the best position possible going forward. guess there's the crowd that's like this is a mock, i'm just gonna go wild and get guys and then others that get their kicks or whatever from trying to maintain future assets/flexibility 

Teams do this irl too, not that's the right thing to do, but they still do it.  Take the ridiculous contract that the Giants gave Golden Tate right after extending and trading OBJ.  After one year there are talks of them cutting him.  The dead money alone doesn't make it worth it.  With this mock being a blind mock, and after drafting their future QB I could see why the Jaguars @pwny potentially overspent for a decent receiver in the FA just to insure they landed their target.

  

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I'll try to update the team rosters later tonight but at the latest tomorrow morning.

UFA listing is updated with the latest transactions.

I've also adjusted the bidding round APY decrease by another 10% (now devalued 40% of original demands).

 

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GvxonDQVUq2pbiqWwV_8JKRU9MaXCrbRgxgjNQ8YnFE/edit#gid=54883829

Free Agency Data updated.

FA Bidding Round Total # of Contracts Submitted # of Outbids per Rnd UFA Resign Reserve Total # Signed Avg. Signed per Team % Signed Avg. APY Demands Avg.Signed APY % Dif.
FA BIDDING ROUND 01 122 42 50 27 3 80 2.5 65.6% $4,969,606 $7,152,965 143.9%
FA BIDDING ROUND 02 103 35 45 20 3 68 2.1 66.0% $3,187,999 $4,488,164 140.8%
FA BIDDING ROUND 03 98 18 60 16 4 80 2.5 81.6% $3,155,743 $3,929,281 124.5%
FA BIDDING ROUND 04 81 14 50 16 1 67 2.1 82.7% $2,890,615 $3,569,038 123.5%
FA BIDDING ROUND 05 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0   $0 $0 0.0%
FA BIDDING ROUND 06 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0   $0 $0 0.0%
FA BIDDING ROUND 07 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0   $0 $0 0.0%
FA BIDDING ROUND 08 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0   $0 $0 0.0%
FA BIDDING ROUND 09 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0   $0 $0 0.0%
FA BIDDING ROUND 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0   $0 $0 0.0%
FA BIDDING ROUND 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0   $0 $0 0.0%
FA BIDDING ROUND 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0   $0 $0 0.0%
Total: 404 109 205 79 11 295 9.2 295.9% $14,203,964 $19,139,448 532.7%
                       
Rnd 1-3 Avg. Signed 107.7 31.7 51.7 21.0 3.3 76.0 2.4 70.6% $3,771,116 $5,190,136 137.6%
Rnd 4-6 Avg. Signed 27.0 4.7 16.7 5.3 0.3 22.3 0.7 82.7% $963,538 $1,189,679 123.5%
Rnd 7-9 Avg. Signed 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0   $0 $0 0.0%
Rnd 10-12 Avg. Signed 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0   $0 $0 0.0%
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