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2021 New York Jets State of the Roster


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15 minutes ago, KingOfNewYork said:

Not official until it’s announced so I’m just waiting on that but all signs point to it. I do think we actually have to hire Saleh then request permission. Shanahan could always promote him though I doubt it

They Just promoted McDaniel so it looks like they know they’re losing him

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3 hours ago, xrade said:

Cool. In what capacity? 

It was at a QB camp. I used to go to those for free all the time to because the QB's needed WR's and I got to work on my receiving skills and network with coaches. 

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We are basically a raw ball of clay for molding right now. With cap space, draft assets, and a brain trust that's well-respected in league circles, I think we can turn this thing around quickly.

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On 1/21/2021 at 9:04 PM, KingOfNewYork said:

He would have gotten so many snaps this year if he was healthy. 

Yup I was looking forward to him getting snaps. The talent is there with him, he just needs the right coaching to get it out of him. Now he might not make the team. He saves us like 2mill in cap space I think if we cut him. If we go a star WR in FA and a guy in the draft... he might be cut. 

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Looking at the changes schematically on defense we’re gonna need 1 Starting CB(I love Hall’s potential in the new scheme), 2 new DE, and a OLB(I’m comfortable with Mosley and Hewitt/Cashman at 2 of the spots, would like to get someone more Athletic at the other Spot)

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Looking for an education here. What is considered a DE in a 4-3. I always thought of a DE in that scheme as lining up just outside the OT with hand in dirt. They are part of the 4 man rotation on the DL. Moving the DE farther off the OT makes it a wide 9 lineup.  Typically they do not drop into coverage. They should have short area quickness as all DL should and the size (275+ lbs) to not get blown off the ball. I do not consider them an EDGE which is terminology used for a PR specialist mostly in a 3-4.

The OLB in a 4-3 lines up off the line or on the line. They can blitz, drop into coverage, play the off tackle run etc. They are not considered part of the 4 man DL rotation but rather the LB rotation. They need short area quickness but also longer distance speed for pass coverage whether man against a TE or zone.  Typically in the 240 - 260 lb range.

Have I got this right? What am I missing? Sometimes I think I am talking a different language when discussing with you guys. 

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3 minutes ago, xrade said:

Looking for an education here. What is considered a DE in a 4-3. I always thought of a DE in that scheme as lining up just outside the OT with hand in dirt. They are part of the 4 man rotation on the DL. Moving the DE farther off the OT makes it a wide 9 lineup.  Typically they do not drop into coverage. They should have short area quickness as all DL should and the size (275+ lbs) to not get blown off the ball. I do not consider them an EDGE which is terminology used for a PR specialist mostly in a 3-4.

The OLB in a 4-3 lines up off the line or on the line. They can blitz, drop into coverage, play the off tackle run etc. They are not considered part of the 4 man DL rotation but rather the LB rotation. They need short area quickness but also longer distance speed for pass coverage whether man against a TE or zone.  Typically in the 240 - 260 lb range.

Have I got this right? What am I missing? Sometimes I think I am talking a different language when discussing with you guys. 

You have it right but in a 43 Under which is what we are gonna run depends on more athletic DL and LB’s compared to a traditional 43, We’re gonna be playing a ton of Zone so it’s extremely important our LB at rangy enough and have the Football IQ to play in this scheme. From a DL perspective I expect us to keep our starting DL in tact to a degree With JFM playing DE in early downs but replacing Foley on 3rd downs and obvious passing situations similar to what guys like Michael Bennett and Arik Armstead played in this type of defense. The other DE spot (often Called the LEO) is gonna be someone who’s athletic and a pass rusher first and foremost.

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