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24 minutes ago, malagabears said:

According to Jahns, one option is to use Foles as a bridge QB and draft one high. He quotes Brad Spielburger from OTC as saying Foles contract makes it a strong possibility that can't be discarded.
That is absolute vomit if that happens because it practically ensures another season stuck in mediocracy or losing. Why the hell would you retain Nagy/Pace then?

https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/1352301665714642947?s=19

That is likely what is happening. We just need the rookie to be ready early when Foles sucks/injured.

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45 minutes ago, WindyCity said:

Louis Riddick, who is close with Matt Nagy, just said on ESPN radio that Pace/Nagy are in on trying to get Watson to Chicago.

How embarrassing to be able to get him for no extra in draft and then years later pay through the nose in salary and draft capital for him.

Heck you could have traded DOWN for him and picked UP draft picks.  

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, beardown3231 said:

Duh Bears!

They can't gut team and pay him top dollar and win.

Texans couldn't win enough on his rookie deal and played in a terrible division.

He will be hurt and/or disgruntled.   He will be a diva because he will essentially have team over a barrel.

I doubt he even would come.   Would you?  Your career would likely be effectively over and fans would hate you in short order because of big contract and trade and disappointing results.

Whole different ball game if he was drafted here.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, dll2000 said:

How embarrassing to be able to get him for no extra in draft and then years later pay through the nose in salary and draft capital for him.

Heck you could have traded DOWN for him and picked UP draft picks.  

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, dll2000 said:

They can't gut team and pay him top dollar and win.

Texans couldn't win enough on his rookie deal and played in a terrible division.

He will be hurt and/or disgruntled.   He will be a diva because he will essentially have team over a barrel.

I doubt he even would come.   Would you?  Your career would likely be effectively over and fans would hate you in short order because of big contract and trade and disappointing results.

Whole different ball game if he was drafted here.

 

 

 

The Bears would have to gut the team if they were to pull off this acquisition, but I'd rather have a QB and worry about the rest as opposed to having a lot of the rest and no QB, as it's been for the majority of the last 4-5 decades. Watson isn't unhappy in Houston because they stunk this year; he's unhappy being the FO isn't listening to a thing he's saying and those same people are quite clearly idiots AND it's not because of that

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Pace is pretty good drafter past first round ... okay and second.   

But if he trades all draft capital for Watson you will have to rely on him to pick bargain FAs to mold into a championship team around Watson.

What are odds of that?  

Lets review his FAs, this without paying a QB top dollar much of time:

2015: LB Sam Acho, CB Tracy Porter, LB Pernell McPhee, S Antrel Rolle, WR Eddie Royal, DE Ray McDonald

2016: DE Akiem Hicks, LB Danny Trevathan, RT Bobby Massie, LB Jerrell Freeman

2017:  CB Prince Amukamara, QB Mike Glennon, S Quintin Demps, TE Dion Sims, WR Markus Wheaton (but for Prince, this may be one of worst FA classes of all time).  

2018:   WR Allen Robinson, WR Taylor Gabriel, K Cody Parkey, TE Trey Burton

2019: KR Cordarrelle Patterson, CB Buster Skrine, S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, LB Kevin Pierre-Louis, RB Mike Davis

2020: Edge Quinn, OL Ifedi, edge Mingo, CB Burns and TE Graham.  

Who is even still here?   Who was a key difference maker?  Not many.  

 Hicks, Robinson and Prince.   3 difference makers in 6 years.  

Rest of them are just role players or plain suck and some of suck was quite pricey.   Patterson is a standout special teamer, I'll give him that.

 

 

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4 hours ago, malagabears said:

According to Jahns, one option is to use Foles as a bridge QB and draft one high. He quotes Brad Spielburger from OTC as saying Foles contract makes it a strong possibility that can't be discarded.
That is absolute vomit if that happens because it practically ensures another season stuck in mediocracy or losing. Why the hell would you retain Nagy/Pace then?

https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/1352301665714642947?s=19

While he's probably right, what's the logic of retaining Nagy if you believe that you're going through the year as a stop-gap QB?  Not to mention, by selecting another QB you're committing another 3ish years minimum to Pace.

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3 minutes ago, beardown3231 said:

The Bears would have to gut the team if they were to pull off this acquisition, but I'd rather have a QB and worry about the rest as opposed to having a lot of the rest and no QB, as it's been for the majority of the last 4-5 decades. Watson isn't unhappy in Houston because they stunk this year; he's unhappy being the FO isn't listening to a thing he's saying and those same people are quite clearly idiots AND it's not because of that

Name a below average team with a great QB that is a contender for a title ... ever - hint one of them wasn't 2020 Houston Texans.

Seahawks have a ton of upper echelon studs, but due to a few holes here and there can't compete.   

You need a good QB AND a good team.   Bears can't have both if they move for Watson because of what it will cost them.  I don't see it.   All you will do is spin your wheels for next 7 years.

 

 

 

 

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