WindyCity Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 35 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: There is a 0% chance Nagy and Pace are thinking this way. Minshew is not a job saver. He is a place holder and I am not sure they are guaranteed a place after 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, WindyCity said: There is a 0% chance Nagy and Pace are thinking this way. Minshew is not a job saver. He is a place holder and I am not sure they are guaranteed a place after 2021. GOL-LY do I not get the Mania about this Minshew Man. I do appreciate his style, but I've watching a couple Jags games and the arrow is not up for him. If the Bears go with a Carr level QB next season, and give up anythign to do it, Pace is doomed. This team is not one average QB away from contention, frankly they're "The Bears 2021 draft was one for the ages, getting a sterling young QB, talented starting right tackle, as well as a steal of a WR in round three, plus all that quality depth" away from saving their jobs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Jamie Newman apparently had a good day at the Senior Bowl. We need some of the 2nd and 3rd round QB guys to start flashing a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, beardown3231 said: So do you not want a rookie starter in a make or break year or do you think Pace & Nagy don't? Because as much as I love the Bears Minshew isn't winning them s*** next year. Plus I'm sick of this regime and if they go with Trask in round 2 + Foles, it essentially guarantees them a top 10 pick and everyone gets s***-canned thankfully Probably both...would you trust a guy who has never took a snap of NFL football with your job? I probably wouldn't if I could find someone good with experience. And if we did take Trask (highly doubt he makes it to our pick in round two) then a new GM/HC would probably be asked to work with him...not then turn round and use a top 10 pick on another QB...which will instantly put some GM/HC candidates off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, WindyCity said: There is a 0% chance Nagy and Pace are thinking this way. Minshew is not a job saver. He is a place holder and I am not sure they are guaranteed a place after 2021. I'm just not sure a rookie QB is the answer either tho...maybe it's not Minshew...let's say it is Darnold...would you trust a rookie QB picked at #20 like Jones or Trask over Darnold at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said: Probably both...would you trust a guy who has never took a snap of NFL football with your job? I probably wouldn't if I could find someone good with experience. And if we did take Trask (highly doubt he makes it to our pick in round two) then a new GM/HC would probably be asked to work with him...not then turn round and use a top 10 pick on another QB...which will instantly put some GM/HC candidates off. I don't think so. If a new regime comes in they aren't going to let Kyle Trask prevent them from using a top 10 pick on a QB unless he blows their balls off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said: I'm just not sure a rookie QB is the answer either tho...maybe it's not Minshew...let's say it is Darnold...would you trust a rookie QB picked at #20 like Jones or Trask over Darnold at this point? The Jets are keeping Darnold unless they get Watson, and even then Darnold would be going back to Houston in the trade I'd assume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, RunningVaccs said: GOL-LY do I not get the Mania about this Minshew Man. I do appreciate his style, but I've watching a couple Jags games and the arrow is not up for him. If the Bears go with a Carr level QB next season, and give up anythign to do it, Pace is doomed. This team is not one average QB away from contention, frankly they're "The Bears 2021 draft was one for the ages, getting a sterling young QB, talented starting right tackle, as well as a steal of a WR in round three, plus all that quality depth" away from saving their jobs. What more could you ask for in a quarterback? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, RunningVaccs said: GOL-LY do I not get the Mania about this Minshew Man. I do appreciate his style, but I've watching a couple Jags games and the arrow is not up for him. If the Bears go with a Carr level QB next season, and give up anythign to do it, Pace is doomed. This team is not one average QB away from contention, frankly they're "The Bears 2021 draft was one for the ages, getting a sterling young QB, talented starting right tackle, as well as a steal of a WR in round three, plus all that quality depth" away from saving their jobs. QB 1 - 62.86% career completion percentage - 6.9 YPA - 33.5% of throws go for 1st downs - 93.1 QBR QB 2 - 59.8% career completion percentage - 6.6 YPA - 31.67% of throws go for 1st downs - 78.6 QBR QB 3 - 64.44% career completion percentage - 7 YPA - 33.45% of throws go for 1st downs - 92.1 QBR QB 4 - 61.95% career completion percentage - 7.1 YPA - 34.44% of throws go for 1st downs - 85.3 QBR So those QBs in order are Minshew, Darnold, Carr & Jay Cutler...if you offer me Minshew for 4th round value or Darnold for 2nd round value there is only one logical pick to make there...Minshew has done a lot with not a lot in Jacksonville and if you can give him a LT & a WR/TE here I think he can be very productive for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: The Jets are keeping Darnold unless they get Watson, and even then Darnold would be going back to Houston in the trade I'd assume If the Jets get Fields at #2 I would think they would move Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Madmike90 said: If the Jets get Fields at #2 I would think they would move Darnold. I'll be shocked if Fields ends up being the #2 QB this draft.... If the jets screw this up, I'm on the phone trying to go up and get Wilson. You can't fix a slow processor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Just now, Epyon said: I'll be shocked if Fields ends up being the #2 QB this draft.... If the jets screw this up, I'm on the phone trying to go up and get Wilson. You can't fix a slow processor. I reckon Wilson's interview and injury history keep him behind Lawrence & Fields...I do 100% agree tho that I like Wilson more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said: I'm just not sure a rookie QB is the answer either tho...maybe it's not Minshew...let's say it is Darnold...would you trust a rookie QB picked at #20 like Jones or Trask over Darnold at this point? I wouldn’t trust any of them. I think picking a QB at 20 is the worst value in the draft. But a rookie QB who shows any flashes of being good buys them more time than a 9-7 season and still no future at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Madmike90 said: Probably both...would you trust a guy who has never took a snap of NFL football with your job? I probably wouldn't if I could find someone good with experience. And if we did take Trask (highly doubt he makes it to our pick in round two) then a new GM/HC would probably be asked to work with him...not then turn round and use a top 10 pick on another QB...which will instantly put some GM/HC candidates off. That is exactly why you needed to fire them. The minute they kept their jobs you were green lighting a move at QB and more years. They aren’t going to play it safe. They have 0 incentive to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 My issues with Minshew that go beyond the stats. -His arm is pretty weak by NFL standards -He can be really frantic in the pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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