Madmike90 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 If is was Wentz for our 1st, Foles & Cohen that is a win for us IMO...we clearly don't want Foles on the roster and it clears his cap hit...Cohen is a gadget guy who basically gives away the play when he is on the field...out of reach of the top QB prospects I wouldn't be mad landing Wentz at that...only bad thing is it locks is in to taking the best OT in the 2nd round of the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: If is was Wentz for our 1st, Foles & Cohen that is a win for us IMO...we clearly don't want Foles on the roster and it clears his cap hit...Cohen is a gadget guy who basically gives away the play when he is on the field...out of reach of the top QB prospects I wouldn't be mad landing Wentz at that...only bad thing is it locks is in to taking the best OT in the 2nd round of the draft. You never know. If a CB prospect falls... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Sorry @RunningVaccs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nads786 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Uncle Buck said: I disagree with this. While it's true that Watson is a sure bet, I think Trevor is a darn good bet, in spite of not being a sure thing at this point. In addition to that, you would be getting Trevor on a rookie contract for the next five years, versus paying a huge contract to Watson. Another big reason that nobody ever talks about is that the Texans are a division rival of the Jaguars. They are in a position where they have a great QB and it looks like they will have to ship him out. Just about anything they do is going to be a down grade for them. If you are the Jaguars, why would you help them out of a jam by taking their malcontent QB off their hands AND THEN giving them a replacement with a rookie contract who could very well end up being just as good? If you are the Jags, you just sit back and smile as your division rival destroys themselves. Then you are the lone team in the division with an elite QB. Totally forgot about this.. yep that trade will never happen. The Jet's or Miami look like the ideal destination. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nads786 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said: If is was Wentz for our 1st, Foles & Cohen that is a win for us IMO...we clearly don't want Foles on the roster and it clears his cap hit...Cohen is a gadget guy who basically gives away the play when he is on the field...out of reach of the top QB prospects I wouldn't be mad landing Wentz at that...only bad thing is it locks is in to taking the best OT in the 2nd round of the draft. I agree, I thought the Cohen contract really didn't make much sense for how limited his reps are in the scheme. He's explosive for sure, but he is isn't an elite burner and he keeps running out of bounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 Does anyone have a preference over the first round pick traded? #20 or 2022 first round pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, G08 said: Does anyone have a preference over the first round pick traded? #20 or 2022 first round pick They need the talent this season so I think they prefer the 2022 1st. I don’t think we will be picking higher in 2022 unless we start Foles, so I am ambivalent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I just want to be on record.  Wentz is better than Mitch. My issue with this move is all related to cost, not that I think we are getting a similar or worse player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Obviously we have no idea what the compensation looks like or how close this is to happening, but I feel a lot of dread at what the idiot Bears will be willing to give up to get a better QB, both in terms of the trade and what the contract will do to their finances going forward. Once again, the Bears are going to have to rely on unlikely things happening in order to be good, and that's a crap way to run a team. Assuming we get Wentz, we then have to hope he's healthy, motivated, and good again, all three of which are loaded with problems, then we have to assume that the remaining draft picks hit and give us starters. The team would literally be better off if everyone over just decides to retire, and they suck this year and can start over next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, G08 said: Does anyone have a preference over the first round pick traded? #20 or 2022 first round pick If you can give up the 2022 pick you 100% need to do it...that defences window isn't going to last forever...build to win now if you bring in Wentz...if we keep the 2020 picks then OT in the 1st then OT/TE in the 2nd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 34 minutes ago, RunningVaccs said: Bears are going to have to rely on unlikely things happening in order to be good For sake of argument, the last time Carson Wentz was in this scheme with John DeFilippo as his QB coach, he was an MVP candidate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, Madmike90 said: If you can give up the 2022 pick you 100% need to do it...that defences window isn't going to last forever...build to win now if you bring in Wentz...if we keep the 2020 picks then OT in the 1st then OT/TE in the 2nd. TE? I'd have to go WR there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021  https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30853025/sources-multiple-teams-reached-new-york-jets-sam-darnold The Bears may not be locked in on Wentz. Darnold might be the better acquisition...depending on the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, G08 said: For sake of argument, the last time Carson Wentz was in this scheme with John DeFilippo as his QB coach, he was an MVP candidate. That was an ACL and a back injury ago though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, G08 said: For sake of argument, the last time Carson Wentz was in this scheme with John DeFilippo as his QB coach, he was an MVP candidate. To be fair, the last time Wentz was in this system with a comparable OL he was the worst QB in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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