WindyCity Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 42 minutes ago, Heinz D. said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30853025/sources-multiple-teams-reached-new-york-jets-sam-darnold The Bears may not be locked in on Wentz. Darnold might be the better acquisition...depending on the price. Give me Wentz over Darnold. Darnold has a career 45:39 TD:INT rate. He averages 13 picks a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, G08 said: For sake of argument, the last time Carson Wentz was in this scheme with John DeFilippo as his QB coach, he was an MVP candidate. I think Reich was the guy who helped Wentz then, not Flip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: I think Reich was the guy who helped Wentz then, not Flip Maybe. Research I've been doing points to Flip being "up his butt" as the 'bad cop' in a good cop/bad cop coaching relationship. Some say Wentz needs that, if he's coddled his performance deteriorates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Give me Wentz over Darnold. Darnold has a career 45:39 TD:INT rate. He averages 13 picks a year. I dunno. If you can get Darnold for a second this year, and a fourth next year? Darnold is also only 23, and has been stuck on a bad and rebuilding team. Like Wentz, he's been hurt a lot, but I wouldn't call him "injury prone" just yet. Wentz may very well be injury prone. Edited February 7, 2021 by Heinz D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 hours ago, G08 said: Does anyone have a preference over the first round pick traded? #20 or 2022 first round pick Send them 20 if I get to choose. I don't expect to see Nagy pacing Chicago's sidelines in 2022. I don't want to limit what will hopefully be a better coach, plus it's likely a jump forward in the draft order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, G08 said: Maybe. Research I've been doing points to Flip being "up his butt" as the 'bad cop' in a good cop/bad cop coaching relationship. Some say Wentz needs that, if he's coddled his performance deteriorates. We're need the good cop then. Right now we have bad cop/ dumb*** cop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, Heinz D. said: I dunno. If you can get Darnold for a second this year, and a fourth next year? Darnold is also only 23, and has been stuck on a bad and rebuilding team. Like Wentz, he's been hurt a lot, but I wouldn't call him "injury prone" just yet. Wentz may very well be injury prone. Darnold has averaged 15 TDs and 13 INTs a season. I don’t care how bad the situation is that is horrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 This coaching staff sucks. I would be shocked if they could “fix” Wentz. We need to hope that his natural talent is an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstract_thought Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, WindyCity said: This coaching staff sucks. I would be shocked if they could “fix” Wentz. We need to hope that his natural talent is an upgrade. Wentz's career numbers are very similar to Trubisky's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, abstract_thought said: Wentz's career numbers are very similar to Trubisky's. Mitch has never shown anywhere near the ceiling Wentz has. Mitch struggles to go 2:1 TD: INT Wentz has a season of 5:1 and 4:1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Can people please get off of Darnold. At this point a 3rd round pick is an overpay. Darnold is a bad QB. Hes has never looked better than Trubisky, if you dont like Mitch, who protects the ball and WINS, why would you want a worse QB, who has no concept of ball security, loses 2/3 of his starts, and give up resources to do it. Not the biggest fan of a Wentz trade. If it's a 1 and future 3 I can live with it, I guess. But I wouldnt want to take away from future 1s. This staff gets one more bite of the apple, if the deal is made, they have to win a playoff game to stay IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Mitch has never shown anywhere near the ceiling Wentz has. Mitch struggles to go 2:1 TD: INT Wentz has a season of 5:1 and 4:1. Not disagreeing with your take Windy, but saying Mitch struggles to go 2:1 is disingenuous at best. Hes basically been 2:1 every year but his rookie year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: Can people please get off of Darnold. At this point a 3rd round pick is an overpay. Darnold is a bad QB. Hes has never looked better than Trubisky, if you dont like Mitch, who protects the ball and WINS, why would you want a worse QB, who has no concept of ball security, loses 2/3 of his starts, and give up resources to do it. Not the biggest fan of a Wentz trade. If it's a 1 and future 3 I can live with it, I guess. But I wouldnt want to take away from future 1s. This staff gets one more bite of the apple, if the deal is made, they have to win a playoff game to stay IMO Some nice cherry picking and whitewashing going on here per usual. Edited February 7, 2021 by GOGRIESE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: Not disagreeing with your take Windy, but saying Mitch struggles to go 2:1 is disingenuous at best. Hes basically been 2:1 every year but his rookie year. He isn't 2:1 therefore he hasn't "basically been 2:1 every year" and therefore he struggles to even be 2:1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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