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Inside Carson Wentz’s regression : Jeff McLane.


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TL;dr 

Carson doesn’t love hard coaching, and walks over softer touch coaches. He is a fine teammate but tends to isolate himself or fall back into hanging out with a few teammates a lot. Doesn’t take a lot of accountability internally or with the media.

Roseman has treated him like a HoF QB basically since they drafted him.

Doug went rouge and benched him. This was after the Packers game. The two stopped talking outside of install meetings. Carson would kill plays almost out of spite. Doug also never made it clear to Hurts he was going to sit for Nate.

Press Taylor never pushed back on Carson not taking responsibility. Marty was supposed to coach him up to be an OC...but Press didn’t like that. Scango never really knew what his job was and no one knew the power structure.

At least one Olineman asked Carson to be benched, seemingly after 2/3rds of his sacks were on him.

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2 minutes ago, Kiltman said:

Maybe Peters, he’s the only one with that clout and could’ve seen it as Carson wasting one of his last years.

 

Just now, ninjapirate said:

That is still never a good look if your OL start turning on you as a QB yikes.

Agreed. Lane is a pretty no nonsense kind of guy,  I could see him saying it. No matter who said it, still surprising it was done.

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A lot of this is due to the kind of person Doug is. He seems like a parent that always lets his kids do what they want and when it comes down to saying no to them in public, the kids throw tantrums. Carson is immensely talented and he knows that, the only type of coach that can coach these type of players are coaches that are confrontational and hold their players accountable. Look how Doug handled the QB switch, every week he wouldn't give his answer in fear that someone would be upset with him, you can't have that. 

Philly needs a hard headed coach that has exceptional leader abilities. Mike Tomlin has lasted as long as he did because he doesn't take any BS, can assemble a good staff, and mostly the players respect him. 

 

Get a innovative tough coach that is a natural leader and Carson will be straightened out. 

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11 minutes ago, eagles18 said:

A lot of this is due to the kind of person Doug is. He seems like a parent that always lets his kids do what they want and when it comes down to saying no to them in public, the kids throw tantrums. Carson is immensely talented and he knows that, the only type of coach that can coach these type of players are coaches that are confrontational and hold their players accountable. Look how Doug handled the QB switch, every week he wouldn't give his answer in fear that someone would be upset with him, you can't have that. 

Philly needs a hard headed coach that has exceptional leader abilities. Mike Tomlin has lasted as long as he did because he doesn't take any BS, can assemble a good staff, and mostly the players respect him. 

 

Get a innovative tough coach that is a natural leader and Carson will be straightened out. 

did you just blame Doug for Carson being a piece of crap?

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41 minutes ago, eagles18 said:

A lot of this is due to the kind of person Doug is. He seems like a parent that always lets his kids do what they want and when it comes down to saying no to them in public, the kids throw tantrums. Carson is immensely talented and he knows that, the only type of coach that can coach these type of players are coaches that are confrontational and hold their players accountable. Look how Doug handled the QB switch, every week he wouldn't give his answer in fear that someone would be upset with him, you can't have that. 

Philly needs a hard headed coach that has exceptional leader abilities. Mike Tomlin has lasted as long as he did because he doesn't take any BS, can assemble a good staff, and mostly the players respect him. 

 

Get a innovative tough coach that is a natural leader and Carson will be straightened out. 

There's a saying that goes something along the lines of "If you're never upsetting anyone, then you're not doing your job as a leader." Or something like that. Seems fitting here.

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17 minutes ago, ninjapirate said:

Doug has nothing to do with Carson being a uncoachable menace.

Doug can't scheme, or coach anyone else either. Doug also should have squashed any sort of outburst from Carson long ago before it got out of hand. Like the analogy posted above, if you're a parent that lets your child get away with things when they're young, they won't respect your authority when they get somewhat older.

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2 minutes ago, Danger said:

Doug can't scheme, or coach anyone else either. Doug also should have squashed any sort of outburst from Carson long ago before it got out of hand. Like the analogy posted above, if you're a parent that lets your child get away with things when they're young, they won't respect your authority when they get somewhat older.

I'm fine with Doug leaving. But this problem is a personal problem that a 28 year old has not a toddler. It's entirely his fault for not being mature and open to coaching. 

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