berlin calling Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 man, Eli sure was a better postseason QB than his brother. anybody wanted to have that guy on his team. Lamar is 23. i'd say its impressive enough he already has that many postseason games under his belt. Hes far from a finished product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirill said: Ok, both these guys were good at throwing the football. Lamar Jackson isn't. Harbaugh was not good. That's why he bounced around 4 teams flaming out at every stop. Edited January 17, 2021 by TecmoSuperJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevein2012 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Didn't Baltimore have like 5 straight seasons without winning a playoff game before they dumped Flacco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 57 minutes ago, berlin calling said: Lamar is 23. i'd say its impressive enough he already has that many postseason games under his belt. Hes far from a finished product. First off, he is 24. HUGE difference. Secondly, youre in denial. You guys need to dump him fast, and sign Mitch Trubisky. Cut Tucker while youre at it. Two field goals off the uprights in a playoff game? The guy just isnt dependable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 I agree with the premise of this thread and it’s why Baltimore should start Huntley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 The playoffs are a crap shoot anyway. Essentially every team in the playoffs is good. The goal is to build a good enough team to make the playoffs every year, and hopefully you get lucky one or more of those years and win the whole thing. There is still a long ways to go before Jackson is damaged goods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightime Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 So the Ravens should’ve kept a washed up Joe Flacco just because he used to be good in the playoffs 6 years ago? If Joe Flacco was still on the Ravens, they wouldn’t even be in the playoffs this year. He’s not even good enough to start for the Jets anymore. And Lamar Jackson has played in 4 playoff games, not 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) Flacco is one of the greatest post season QBs of all time - not really a fair comparison. Ff would have absolutely called Dan marino, John Elway, and Peyton Manning busts. Or maybe there’s something else about Lamar that means when he loses it counts for double compared to when someone else does. Edited January 17, 2021 by ThatJaxxenGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) The anti-Lamar circlejerk is in full tug and y’all are lucky we ain’t allowed to call out the underlying truth on this website. Find me another MVP who gets these type of ignorant “detractors”. Edited January 17, 2021 by ThatJaxxenGuy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ThatJaxxenGuy said: Flacco is one of the greatest post season QBs of all time - not really a fair comparison. Ff would have absolutely called Dan marino, John Elway, and Peyton Manning busts. Or maybe there’s something else about Lamar that means when he loses it counts for double compared to when someone else does. I’m a bit more skeptical about Lamar. I don’t believe he has a window as wide as those other guys. There is typically a law of diminishing returns on QBs like Jackson. I think he has 4-5 years of prime...and it does appear that defenses are evolving faster from an intellectual standpoint than him. It’s about punches and counter punches...I really do think that next year will be telling. Edited January 17, 2021 by sammymvpknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, sammymvpknight said: I’m a bit more skeptical about Lamar. I don’t believe he has a window as wide as those other guys. There is typically a law of diminishing returns on QBs like Jackson. I think he has 4-5 years of prime...and it does appear that defenses are evolving faster from an intellectual standpoint than him. It’s about punches and counter punches...I really do think that next year will be telling. Go ahead be skeptical, that’s fine (though I think educated fans will want to see Roman gone before Lamar) Its the folks saying we should move on to our rookie UDFA backup and he “can’t throw” and “we’ve seen enough to know he wilL never win” (a lot of people “saw enough” the first interview he gave for the draft) thats suspect and I’ve heard that narrative before and it’s true face is ugly. Edited January 17, 2021 by ThatJaxxenGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, minutemancl said: The playoffs are a crap shoot anyway. Essentially every team in the playoffs is good. The goal is to build a good enough team to make the playoffs every year, and hopefully you get lucky one or more of those years and win the whole thing. There is still a long ways to go before Jackson is damaged goods. I kinda disagree with this notion. Every year there's one or two teams that have zero shot of winning the SB that still make the playoffs. Furthermore: This year we have a 1 seed and a 2 seed in the AFCCG and we are waiting to see if the other 1 and 2 seed will make it to join them. 2019: The 1 seed in the NFC and 2 seed in the AFC met in the Super Bowl 2018: Both 2 seeds made it to the SB 2017: Both 1 seeds made it to the SB. 2016: The 1 seed in the AFC and 2 seed in the NFC met in the SB 2015: Both 1 seeds met in the SB 2014: Both 1 seeds met in the SB 2013: Both 1 seeds met in the SB 2012: The 2 seed NFC team met a 4 seed AFC team 2011: The 1 seed AFC team met a 4 seed NFC team 2010: A 2 seed AFC team met a 6 seed NFC team 2009: Both 1 seeds met in the SB 2008: A 2 seed met a 4 seed 2007: A 1 seed met a 5 seed. 2006: A 1 seed in the NFC met a 3 seed in the AFC 2005: A one seed in the NFC met a 6 seed in the NFC 2004: An NFC 1 seed met an AFC 2 seed 2003: A 1 seed in the AFC met a 3 seed in the NFC 2002: A 1 seed in the AFC met a 2 seed in the NFC 2001: A 1 seed in the NFC met a 1 seed in the AFC. So in the last 20 years every single Super Bowl featured either a 1 or 2 seed. Only 3 times did a wildcard team even advance to the SB. And more than half the time it's just 1 and 2 seeds playing each other in the SB. The notion that "everybody has a chance in the playoffs" is usually just not very true. Occassionally there will be some really strong wildcard team, but it's rare. And even then the 2005 Steelers were a strong 11-5 wildcard team, the 2007 Giants were a good 10-6 wildcard team stuck in the same conference as the conference leader. And the 2010 Packers just barely missed out on the division at 10-6. There's always teams in the playoffs that have zero shot of making the SB. It's not a crap shoot. There's usually the top teams and then maybe a strong darkhorse type. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirill Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, ThatJaxxenGuy said: The anti-Lamar circlejerk is in full tug and y’all are lucky we ain’t allowed to call out the underlying truth on this website. Find me another MVP who gets these type of ignorant “detractors”. You do realize that the MVP is picked by the media and not guys that actually know what they're talking about right? I dont care how many trophies the media give him, he's not a good enough thrower of the football to win you a superbowl. I would've liked to see the final score if the Ravens started Tyler Huntley instead. They could've easily won. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Stevein2012 said: Didn't Baltimore have like 5 straight seasons without winning a playoff game before they dumped Flacco? Yes. Missed from 2015 - 2019. Made it in 2014 thanks to Gary Kubiak and his zone scheme. If Harbaugh didn't cut Flacco and transform this team into Lamar's team, he would've been fired and the Ravens would be completely irrelevant right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, 43M said: Cut Tucker while youre at it. Two field goals off the uprights in a playoff game? The guy just isnt dependable. I was once told he could be had for a 1st. Time to call in that chip. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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