indifference Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Bucs will win if they are able to get to A Rod on those blitzes. D White and David destroyed them in the first meeting during blitzes. Caused a lot of rushed throws and threw their timing off. If they protect A rod then I think bucs will be susceptible to the big play. JPP and Barrett played well yesterday and I like our matchup against GB on the back end. Lazard/Tunyan do not scare me at all. Saints have better weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee & Contemplation Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, indifference said: Saints have better weapons And a QB who can barely get the ball to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Coffee & Contemplation said: And a QB who can barely get the ball to them. Thats what happens when you play tight and get pressure on Brees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee & Contemplation Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, indifference said: Thats what happens when you play tight and get pressure on Brees. No, that's just what happens when father time catches up to you. Brees' arm has been on a steady decline really showing itself even last year. I'm not saying the pressure doesn't factor in. But he was also missing throws when he wasn't under duress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Coffee & Contemplation said: No, that's just what happens when father time catches up to you. Brees' arm has been on a steady decline really showing itself even last year. I'm not saying the pressure doesn't factor in. But he was also missing throws when he wasn't under duress. Just the week before he had a pretty good game against the Bears. They protected him well and he lit their secondary up. Now its “father time” caught up to him when teams finally are able to get pressure on him. I love NFL fandom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee & Contemplation Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) He's still a good QB, but if you can't see his lack of arm strength is often limiting what plays they call then I'm not sure what to tell you. His velocity is way down from what it used to be, and it's lower than what you'll see from most pro QBs. This effects the windows that he can throw into, and then aids defenders in closing gaps between them and receivers. If 2020 Brees were a draft prospect, based purely on his current physical ability, he would be a low round pick, with the expectation that he'd be a back up, not a starter. He can make up for some of his physical weakness with his knowledge of defenses, but obviously that has its limitations. Meanwhile, Rodgers just posted up one of the best seasons all time, with those weaker weapons. The Bucs may still stop him, but let's not pretend that 2020 Brees and Rodgers are equal to one another, because they're not. Edited January 18, 2021 by Coffee & Contemplation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Coffee & Contemplation said: He's still a good QB, but if you can't see his lack of arm strength is often limiting what plays they call then I'm not sure what to tell you. His velocity is way down from what it used to be, and it's lower than what you'll see from most pro QBs. This effects the windows that he can throw into, and then aids defenders in closing gaps between them and receivers. If 2020 Brees were a draft prospect, based purely on his current physical ability, he would be a low round pick, with the expectation that he'd be a back up, not a starter. He can make up for some of his physical weakness with his knowledge of defenses, but obviously that has its limitations. Meanwhile, Rodgers just posted up one of the best seasons all time, with those weaker weapons. The Bucs may still stop him, but let's not pretend that 2020 Brees and Rodgers are equal to one another, because they're not. Nobody is saying or implying that lmao 2 things can both be true Saints have better weapons than GB A Rod > Brees You take Saints having better weapons and bring up A Rod is better than Brees. Okay..that does not change my original point. I like Murphy-Bunting / Dean / Winfield matchup against this GB group despite the better QB. Edited January 18, 2021 by indifference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 51 minutes ago, indifference said: Bucs will win if they are able to get to A Rod on those blitzes. D White and David destroyed them in the first meeting during blitzes. Caused a lot of rushed throws and threw their timing off. If they protect A rod then I think bucs will be susceptible to the big play. JPP and Barrett played well yesterday and I like our matchup against GB on the back end. Lazard/Tunyan do not scare me at all. Saints have better weapons And a significantly worse offensive scheme. We just put over 100 yards more than the previous record holder on the #1 defense in the playoffs. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Packerraymond said: And a significantly worse offensive scheme. We just put over 100 yards more than the previous record holder on the #1 defense in the playoffs. Good luck. That #1 defense best player was nowhere near full strength. Thanks for the well wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just the thought of J.Dean trying to cover D. Adams just makes me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, indifference said: That #1 defense best player was nowhere near full strength. Thanks for the well wishes With how quick Rodgers was getting the ball out, don't think that would've mattered. Speed will be greatly diminished on this surface, you need to win with power. White and David won't be as big a factor as they were in Oct, but Suh and JPP are built for these conditions. We'll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, notthatbluestuff said: You’re really reaching for some of those. Lavonte David went to a cold weather college a decade ago? Great. Arians coached in Pittsburgh so he loves the cold? Freaking LeSean McCoy? Sure, huge part of the team. Fournette played in TWO cold weather playoff games several years ago?! This is your grand point? The point is whether or not they’re recently accustomed to playing in extreme temperatures. Packers players live in that climate; they’re a lot more used to it than players who went to college in places that get a little chilly occasionally. And there’s a difference between Landover and Green Bay. The reach is the voodoo mojo BS that cold destroys someone who does not live in it but has experienced it often. The Packers play a really cold game about 2 to 3 times a year. That's 3 days out of the past 600 days but this makes them experts. 🤣 I live in the south. I grew up in the North. Do you think I would not know how to use my body in the cold because its been a few years? This was the lame thread that Eagles fans hoped would matter more than McChokesAlot vs Ronde in 2002. The cold, unlike father time, is often defeated. Edited January 18, 2021 by SkippyX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, agarcia34 said: Just the thought of J.Dean trying to cover D. Adams just makes me laugh. Davis will be on Adams most of the game. i can assure you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 love how hyped the Bucs are gonna make this comfortable win that much better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Tampa still lives in fear of the time Davante torched them for 61 yards on 6 catches (10 targets) when the Packers dropped 10 points on them. Its not exactly TY Hilton vs the Texans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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