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Just throwing this out to everyone,   If I didn't tag you.  Don't take offense,   would love for (any)everyone to take part that wants to.     

This year we are throwing out TTMD to the whole forum,    we've been working on improvements that past few years.   This will include a full fledge FA period along with the draft.    

If you would like to take part,   please speak up.   I'm looking to form teams for FA and the Draft,   that way we can take votes.   I really don't want to be making decisions,   if we can get a good group(hopefully an odd number) would love for this forum to vote on moves for the Chiefs this offseason.   

*Not going to give access to the Transaction sheet to everyone,   there's a ton of different sheets and any acceptable contract automatically calculates into the available cap.

 

Also looking for a Co-GM.   Someone to take the ropes next year and on,   Below is the full list of rules if you want,   I have condensed it a bit in this thread.   If you are interested in learning the spreadsheets,  I'm all game to teach and show someone (It's not as difficult as it looks,  I promise).    

@ny92mike and @squire12  have done a ton of work with this,   it's not perfect  but they are constantly making improvements.   If you have issues,  don't throw a fit.   They are also looking for ways to improve,  we can bring it up at the end to improve on next year.

 

Of course @TedLavie would love to have you back, but I understand you're busy.

Schedule:  (Eastern Time Zone)

Feb 8th:                              Waiver Wire Opens
                                           Restructure/Extensions
                                           ERFA/RFA Tenders (Due Feb 10th, 11 PM)
                                           Franchise/Transition Tags (Due Feb 10th)

Feb. 11th:                           Tender Sheet Offers (Due Feb 13, 2PM)

Feb 15th:                          Round 1 FA Bidding (Bids Due Feb 15, 8 PM)

Feb 17th:                            Round 2 FA Bidding(10% APY Decrease)(Bids Due Feb 17, 8 PM)

Feb 19th:                            Round 3 FA Bidding(20% APY Decrease) (Bids Due Feb 19, 8 PM)

Feb 22nd:                           Round 4 FA Bidding(30% APY Decrease) (Bids Due Feb 22, 8 PM)

Feb 24th:                            Round 5 FA Bidding(40% APY Decrease) (Bids Due Feb 24th, 8 PM)

Feb 26th:                            Round 6 FA Bidding(50% APY Decrease)(Bids Due Feb 26th, 8 PM)

Mar. 1st:                            Round 7 FA Bidding(60% APY Decrease)(Bids Due Mar. 1st, 8 PM)

Mar. 3rd:                            Draft Begins:   40 Minutes allocated for each selection 1-7.

Mar. 3rd:                            Round 8 FA Bidding(70% APY Decrease) (Bids Due Mar. 3rd, 8 PM)

Mar 5th:                             Round 9 FA Bidding(80% APY Decrease)(Bids Due Mar. 5th, 8 PM)

Mar. 8th:                            Round 10 FA Bidding(90% APY Decrease) (Bids Due Mar. 8th, 8 PM)

March 11th:                       Round 11 FA Bidding(Vet Min Contracts) (Bids Due Mar. 10th, 8 PM)

March 12th:                       Round 12 FA Bidding(Vet Min Contracts) (Bids Due Mar. 11th, 8 PM)

*** UDFA will be available the day after the draft concludes,  will be open for 3 Days***

 

 

Free Agency Explanation:   There is no Resigning of players before FA starts.

                                           Players are giving a set APY Salary and Contract Length at the start of FA,  this formula has a bunch of calculations in it.   It is not perfect, but neither are players demands.  This is the reason a players APY decreases with each round

Each team is given 4 Bids per Round.   They can use this on ANY player that is currently a FA.     1 of these bids MUST be used on a Resign Bid(current KC FA),   the other 3 Bids are flexible.  Can either be used to sign other teams FA, or switch to Resign more KC free agents.

Reserve Bids:    Aside from the Regular Bidding, you are eligible to place 6 reserve bids on your own free agents.   These bids are not active bids, they only come into effect if another team places a bid on your FA.    If the team that bids on your players contract is less than your Reserve Bid, you get to keep that player.   One bonus of the Reserve bid is that you get a 6% Resign Discount.   This 6% does not get added to the cap,   it is just to prevent a team from offering the same contract as you and having the player leave.

Extension/Restructure Explanation:    Again we are using the same APY formula to calculate what needs to be offered to each player.    Contracts also have to fall within a certain percentage, of Cap Hit, from year to year.   So you can’t have 3 Mil Cap Hit Year 1,   and a 20 Mil the next year.   We have a Limit of 3 on these.

Players Eligible for Restruture:

Patrick Mahomes - QB
Darwin Thompson - RB
Travis Kelce - TE
Tyreek Hill - WR
Mecole Hardman - WR
Nick Allegretti - LG
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - RG
Frank Clark - DE
Chris Jones - DT
Khalen Saunders  - DT
Anthony Hitchens - LB
Rashad Fenton - CB
Juan Thornhill - S
Harrison Butker - K

 

Players Eligible for Extension:

Chad Henne - QB
Matt Moore - QB
Damien Williams - RB
Tyreek Hill - WR
Chad Williams - WR
Eric Fisher - LT
Martinas Rankin - LT
Bryan Witzmann - LG
Mitchell Schwartz - RT
Alex Okafor - DE
Derrick Nnadi - DT
Anthony Hitchens - LB
Dorian O'Daniel - LB
Tyrann Mathieu - S
Armani Watts - S
James Winchester - LS

 

Current Chiefs Roster:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X0SlHnP9VVSDbJ1xdm18ms512WMITx_RyxQQz_jJeH8/edit#gid=0

 

Depth Chart:

Position Number 1 Number 2 Number 3 Number 4 Number 5
QB 1954 - Patrick Mahomes - QB 0406 - Chad Henne - QB 0134 - Anthony Gordon - QB 1353 - Jordan Ta'amu - QB  
RB 0493 - Clyde Edwards-Helaire - RB 0592 - Damien Williams - RB   0660 - Darwin Thompson - RB  
WR 2423 - Tyreek Hill - WR   0151 - Antonio Callaway - WR    
WR 1770 - Mecole Hardman - WR        
TE 2333 - Travis Kelce - TE        
LT 0876 - Eric Fisher - LT 1723 - Martinas Rankin - LT      
LG 1886 - Nick Allegretti - LG        
C          
RG 1612 - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - RG 2500 - Yasir Durant - LT      
RT 1831 - Mitchell Schwartz - RT 1651 - Lucas Niang - RT      
WR     0409 - Chad Williams - WR    
Position Number 1 Number 2 Number 3 Number 4 Number 5
LDE 0071 - Alex Okafor - 43DE 1803 - Mike Danna - 43DE      
LDT 0452 - Chris Jones - 43DT 2290 - Tershawn Wharton - 43DE      
RDT 0756 - Derrick Nnadi - 43DT 1540 - Khalen Saunders - 43DT      
RDE 0906 - Frank Clark - 43DE   2304 - Tim Ward - 43DE    
LOLB   0812 - Dorian O'Daniel - 43OLB     2483 - Willie Gay, Jr. - 43OLB
ILB 0136 - Anthony Hitchens - 43OLB        
ROLB   0640 - Darius Harris - 43OLB      
CB   2014 - Rashad Fenton - CB 2294 - Thakarius Keyes - CB    
SS 2419 - Tyrann Mathieu - S   0160 - Armani Watts - S    
FS 1405 - Juan Thornhill - S        
CB 1589 - L'Jarius Sneed - CB        
Position Number 1 Number 2 Number 3
K 0978 - Harrison Butker - K    
P 2315 - Tommy Townsend - P    
H 1137 - James Winchester - LS    
PR      
KR      
LS      

Cap Space

TOP 51 Cap Space $5,933,921
Top 51 <51
League Cap $205,730,000
Total Cap Hit $199,578,603
Dead Money $693,526
Accured Dead Money $0
Carry Over $6,416,050
Estimated Rookie Pool $5,940,000

ERFA:

Alex Brown CB 0 14.1% $660,000
Nick Keizer TE 0 16.5% $660,000

RFA:

Andrew Wylie LG 2 5.8% $850,000                          
Deon Yelder TE 2 26.3% $850,000                          
Byron Pringle WR 2 62.7% $850,000                          
Ben Niemann 43OLB 2 67.5% $850,000                          
Darrel Williams RB 2 70.6% $850,000                          
Charvarius Ward CB 2 80.5% $850,000                          

Tag Amounts: 

$2,240,000 -    No Comp.
$2,240,000 -  Original Rnd. Comp.
$3,422,000 -  2nd Rnd. Comp.
$4,873,000 - 1st Rnd. Comp.

Current KC FA and  YR/APY:

RB Le'Veon Bell:     5/ $5,080,482
FB Anthony Sherman:  2/ $1,246,875
TE Ricky Seals-Jones:   3/ $971,250
WR Demarcus Robinson:  7/ $2,412,375
WR Sammy Watkins:   7/ $16,800,000
LG Stefen Wisniewski:  2/ $1,080,000
LG Kelechi Osemele:   3/ $1,246,875
C Austin Reiter:   6/$3,265,144
C Daniel Kilgore: 2/$1,273,406
RG Mike Remmers: 3/ $2,766,478
DE Tanoh Kpassagnon:  4/ $1,443,680
DE Taco Charlton:  4/ $920,000
DT Mike Pennel: 5/ $1,099,875
LB Damien Wilson: 5/$4,593,750
CB Bashaud Breeland: 6/ $9,337,964
CB Antonio Hamilton:  7/$1,099,875
S Daniel Sorensen: 5/ $13,644,269

 

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Just let me know if you want to participate in FA Decisions, Draft Decisions, or both.     

 

If you want none of it,  just ignore.   Just giving the option to everyone I could think of.

 

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This is the list of FA in descending order of compensation:

WR Sammy Watkins: 7 $16,800,000
S Daniel Sorensen: 5 $13,644,269
CB Bashaud Breeland: 6 $9,337,964
RB Le'Veon Bell: 5 $5,080,482
LB Damien Wilson: 5 $4,593,750
C Austin Reiter: 6 $3,265,144
RG Mike Remmers: 3 $2,766,478
WR Demarcus  Robinson: 7 $2,412,375
DE Tanoh Kpassagnon: 4 $1,443,680
C Daniel Kilgore: 2 $1,273,406
FB Anthony Sherman: 2 $1,246,875
LG Kelechi Osemele: 3 $1,246,875
DT Mike Pennel: 5 $1,099,875
CB Antonio Hamilton: 7 $1,099,875
LG Stefen Wisniewski: 2 $1,080,000
TE Ricky Seals-Jones: 3 $971,250
DE Taco Charlton: 4 $920,000

Picking which of these to re-sign is not easy.

The other thing that must be done immediately is to figure how to handle injured/returning players. By the end of his rookie season, Juan Thornhill was a stud. he is still not over his injury and plays limited snaps. Should we treat him as a full fledged starter? LDT was gone for the year. Do we consider him back and healthy? What about Rankin? Look at the bottom name on the list. Taco had a season ending injury. He's a situational pass rusher, but a really good one and he's cheap. Does he deserve a contract? 

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Let's do first things first ...

 

had a look at the roster and I'm a bit confused. About half of the practice squad has been added to the active roster, the other half not. Future signings are partly included, others not. Any chance to adjust that .. or do hwe have to go from here?

Next:

Let's set up a rudimentary depth chart with the players available to get an overview.

Then: Let's check out the cap space and what to do about it. 3 M$ does not allow for any free agency to speak of ... quite honestly, that's just enough to sign the draft picks.

Only after that let's consider free agency moves, resignings and so on ... without a solid foundation to start planning from all this is mood.

 

On another issue: Sorensen 13 M$ annually? Really? For a 30 year old safety who made less than 4 M$ annaully so far and was considered a nice backup and ST player by many? WHHHOOOPPPSSYYY ....

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I'll be honest, these things aren't normally super interesting to me. I can chime in if feedback is needed on needs or players around the league, but I don't know much about draft prospects, and I'm not all that interested in getting in super involved.

I did go ahead and feature and pin the topic though. I assume that'll help, and me not being interested in it doesn't mean y'all aren't.

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Personally Taco and Tanoh would both be early targets to resign,  just based off their APY in this. 

Frank/Danna/Taco/Tanoh  is a deep group to start with,    wouldn't necessarily stop me(personally) from adding another if a guy slips,   but can never have enough Edge guys in Spags scheme.

 

2 minutes ago, KC_Guy said:

Let's do first things first ...

 

had a look at the roster and I'm a bit confused. About half of the practice squad has been added to the active roster, the other half not. Future signings are partly included, others not. Any chance to adjust that .. or do hwe have to go from here?

Next:

Let's set up a rudimentary depth chart with the players available to get an overview.

Then: Let's check out the cap space and what to do about it. 3 M$ does not allow for any free agency to speak of ... quite honestly, that's just enough to sign the draft picks.

Only after that let's consider free agency moves, resignings and so on ... without a solid foundation to start planning from all this is mood.

 

On another issue: Sorensen 13 M$ annually? Really? For a 30 year old safety who made less than 4 M$ annaully so far and was considered a nice backup and ST player by many? WHHHOOOPPPSSYYY ....

 No, unfortunately this is our starting point.    It takes weeks upon weeks to build these sheets,   Mike always sets a firm date and locks it.   Otherwise you have teams signing these future guys daily,  so the only fair way is to set one date and build from there.   It's a bit much to have each team constantly asking him to add these players daily.   

I can work on the depth chart.   The 3 Mil Cap Space already has the Draft Pick $$$ calculated into it.    It's still not much,   but at least it's counting the draft picks.

 

LOL  Yes,    I can promise you,   these formulas are not going to calculate every player correct.    It has a ton more involved,  but the basis takes into account;  Player Current Salary,  Position Deviation Salary,  and PFF Grading.   (and Sorensen is loved by PFF).   That's one of the reasons we started dropping %'s off the APY after the first round.

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13 minutes ago, samsel23 said:

 No, unfortunately this is our starting point.    It takes weeks upon weeks to build these sheets,   Mike always sets a firm date and locks it.   Otherwise you have teams signing these future guys daily,  so the only fair way is to set one date and build from there.   It's a bit much to have each team constantly asking him to add these players daily.   

I can work on the depth chart.   The 3 Mil Cap Space already has the Draft Pick $$$ calculated into it.    It's still not much,   but at least it's counting the draft picks.

 

LOL  Yes,    I can promise you,   these formulas are not going to calculate every player correct.    It has a ton more involved,  but the basis takes into account;  Player Current Salary,  Position Deviation Salary,  and PFF Grading.   (and Sorensen is loved by PFF).   That's one of the reasons we started dropping %'s off the APY after the first round.

No problem, we can work around it if need be. And I know how much effort Mike puts into this. Worked with him in the very early stages of this, when the project was considered an attempt to improve FFMD.

 

Let's start with a depth chart then ...

Is there a place where you can see how much a player costs, cap savings by trade or release? By the way .. how do trades work .. and when are they allowed? And how do extensions/restructuring work? Fixed numbers or are we free to develop our own offers?

 

EDIT: Found the contract numbers .. all good there.

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Moves to consider to clear cap:

Extend:

Mathieu - 3 yr
Fisher - 2 r
Hitchens - 2 or 3 yr

I consider this realistic - however, not sure how it works here.

Clark - add phantom years. Not a friend of this as (in real world) would probably tie the team to Clark for additional years. And I quite don't like his performance for the money he is being paid. But right now: no way out.

Restructure:

Kelce

Release or reduce salary:

Schwartz - sorry, but clssic cap casualty.

Butker - don't like his reliability. Big leg .. but ... May be related to a new holder in Townsend? Something to discuss with a view to potential savings - not sure from the spreadsheet about potential guarantees.

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Trades open on the first day,    Feb 8th.    They can be done at any point.   

Although (if you tag and trade a player).   That Cap isn't available to you until after Round 1 of FA.    Doubt will be tagging anyone though.

If you scroll to Column Y-Z.  It will show you the players current contract,  along with the Expected APY an extension would cost.     I would mention,   the cost never decreases on Restructures/Extensions though,   that is a set amount throughout the duration of the mock.    

 

I would say create cap space should be our first priority.     Any thoughts on the following;

Cuts:   QB Matt Moore (we can get Ta'amu and Gordan in this to match),    RB Damien Williams , LG Bryan Witzmann,  Edge Alex Okafor (He has an opt out,  I would just to do as it's going to happen IRL).     

These Moves would get us to just below 8 Mil available before Restructures/Extensions.

 

We can talk about Restructures/Extensions also;

Personally I wouldn't restructure anyone,   Clark/Hitchens are the only two that would really save cap,   and not sure we want to keep pushing guaranteed money back in their contracts.

 

Extensions:

Tyrann Mathieu makes sense:    Team Leader,    $19 Mil Cap Hit,    with an APY around 18.   We could extend him 2-3 years and save 5-6 Mil off this years Cap Hit.

Eric Fisher is another possibility:    14 Mil Cap Hit,     14.7 APY.      We would extend him 2-3 years and save 4-5 Mil off this year.    Do we want to keep him around?

Tyreek Hill would be (my 3rd one):   Cap Hit isn't high this year,  but we could extend him 4-5 Years and lock him/Kelce/Mahomes together.   Would only save 2-3 Mil with this extension,  but we would lock him up for the duration of his prime.

 

Anthony Hitchens,   Is really the only one else I see that would be a possibility to extend for Cap Room,    but how many more years do we want of him?

 

 

 

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Trades open on the first day,    Feb 8th.    They can be done at any point.   

Although (if you tag and trade a player).   That Cap isn't available to you until after Round 1 of FA.    Doubt will be tagging anyone though.

If you scroll to Column Y-Z.  It will show you the players current contract,  along with the Expected APY an extension would cost.     I would mention,   the cost never decreases on Restructures/Extensions though,   that is a set amount throughout the duration of the mock.    

 

I would say create cap space should be our first priority.     Any thoughts on the following;

Cuts:   QB Matt Moore (we can get Ta'amu and Gordan in this to match),    RB Damien Williams , LG Bryan Witzmann,  Edge Alex Okafor (He has an opt out,  I would just to do as it's going to happen IRL).     

These Moves would get us to just below 8 Mil available before Restructures/Extensions.

 

We can talk about Restructures/Extensions also;

Personally I wouldn't restructure anyone,   Clark/Hitchens are the only two that would really save cap,   and not sure we want to keep pushing guaranteed money back in their contracts.

 

Extensions:

Tyrann Mathieu makes sense:    Team Leader,    $19 Mil Cap Hit,    with an APY around 18.   We could extend him 2-3 years and save 5-6 Mil off this years Cap Hit.

Eric Fisher is another possibility:    14 Mil Cap Hit,     14.7 APY.      We would extend him 2-3 years and save 4-5 Mil off this year.    Do we want to keep him around?

Tyreek Hill would be (my 3rd one):   Cap Hit isn't high this year,  but we could extend him 4-5 Years and lock him/Kelce/Mahomes together.   Would only save 2-3 Mil with this extension,  but we would lock him up for the duration of his prime.

 

Anthony Hitchens,   Is really the only one else I see that would be a possibility to extend for Cap Room,    but how many more years do we want of him?

 

 

 

So restructures/extensions doesn't have any effect on the cap? Why then even consider? If they do have effect .. see my above post. Pretty much in line with yours. Not sure if phantom years are a possibility here.

Regarding cuts: fine with most but Damien Wilson. Still something to consider if we run into a cap crunch ... but early on .. not so much a fan.

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So restructures/extensions don't have any effect on the cap? Why then even consider? If they do have effect .. see my above post. Pretty much in line with yours. Not sure if phantom years are a possibility here.

Regarding cuts: fine with most but Damien Wilson. Still something to consider if we run into a cap crunch ... but early on .. not so much a fan.

Oh ... Kelce could be restructured for a bit  ... I think.

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3 minutes ago, KC_Guy said:

So restructures/extensions doesn't have any effect on the cap? Why then even consider? If they do have effect .. see my above post. Pretty much in line with yours. Not sure if phantom years are a possibility here.

Regarding cuts: fine with most but Damien Wilson. Still something to consider if we run into a cap crunch ... but early on .. not so much a fan.

Phantom Years:   Are sort of possible,    but not really.     There's certain percentage each year has be within for the contract to be valid.    I can share the Contract sheet with you,  but it's nothing something I wanted to put in the main post.    It's live and any valid contract will automatically calculation current cap.

 

A Kelce restructure:   Would save 4.3 Against the Cap this year.     I was just avoiding that as IRL he has a built it opt out clause 2 Years in.     We can for sure do that though if everyone agrees,    the Opt Out clauses are not really something easily put in a spreadsheet like this(so it doesn't appear that way in this mock).

 

My thoughts on Damien Williams:        We have Clyde,   we also can bring back Darrel Williams as a RFA.    Do we really want 3 RB's making over 2 Mil?    Personally I would take Darrel over Damien.   But that is also up for discussion.

 

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Phantom Years:   Are sort of possible,    but not really.     There's certain percentage each year has be within for the contract to be valid.    I can share the Contract sheet with you,  but it's nothing something I wanted to put in the main post.    It's live and any valid contract will automatically calculation current cap.

 

A Kelce restructure:   Would save 4.3 Against the Cap this year.     I was just avoiding that as IRL he has a built it opt out clause 2 Years in.     We can for sure do that though if everyone agrees,    the Opt Out clauses are not really something easily put in a spreadsheet like this(so it doesn't appear that way in this mock).

 

My thoughts on Damien Williams:        We have Clyde,   we also can bring back Darrel Williams as a RFA.    Do we really want 3 RB's making over 2 Mil?    Personally I would take Darrel over Damien.   But that is also up for discussion.

 

Damien: we can still cut him later if need be  .. 

 

and Kelce: he's on record (and I believe him) to want to be a Chief for life. So if treated fairly he won't bail out.

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1 minute ago, KC_Guy said:

Damien: we can still cut him later if need be  .. 

Do we tag Darrel Williams also?  He's one of our most important ST'ers,  along with producing anytime we give him reps on O?  

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