onejayhawk Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Not thrilled with the rankings, Mienerz being just one of the oddities. On that board the obvious first pick is Creed Humprey. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, onejayhawk said: Not thrilled with the rankings, Mienerz being just one of the oddities. On that board the obvious first pick is Creed Humprey. J I'm not a big fan of Humphrey in our offense tbh. In no order I'd rather go with: Rousseau, Paye, WR Marshall, WR Toney, LB Collins, or maybe another OL that falls. The drop off in C won't be much, if any, if we wait til the 2nd or 3rd. There's no big can't miss C in this class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) Humphrey gets knocked because he's left handed and not the most athletic. That ignores that he is a natural C and extremely good in his box. I totally agree about Paye, but he's rated well above our pick. J Edited February 24, 2021 by onejayhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC_Guy Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) WR: 3 Ja'Marr Chase LSU X Jaylen Waddle Alabama11 DeVonta Smith Alabama X Rondale Moore Purdue 25 Rashod Bateman Minnesota 35 Terrace Marshall LSU 50 Tylan Wallace Oklahoma State 54 Kadarius Toney Florida 68 Amon-Ra St. Brown USC 80 Marlon Williams UCF 92 Anthony Schwartz Auburn 95 Dyami Brown North Carolina 97 Seth Williams Auburn 101 Dazz Newsome North Carolina 104 Damonte Coxie Memphis 108 Sage Surratt Wake Forest 125 Ihmir Smith-Marsette Iowa 137 Damon Hazelton Missouri 145 Amari Rodgers Clemson 149 Nico Collins Michigan 153 Tyler Vaughns USC 175 Brennan Eagles Texas 191 T.J. Vasher Texas Tech 192 Josh Imatorbhebhe Illinois Probably one of the bigger needs. More so than DE in my opinion. The Chiefs have Hill and Hardman, whom I don't trust to be a real #2. After that there's a plethora of no names (for me) with Ray-Ray McLoud leading the pack. May be samsel is able to add an older vet or two in FA - but probbly noone to write home about. The first three on the list are definitely out of reach, even Marshall I've seen much higher. CB: 6 Patrick Surtain II Alabama 8 Caleb Farley Virginia Tech13 Jaycee Horn South Carolina 23 Asante Samuel Jr. Florida State 41 Tyson Campbell Georgia 49 Greg Newsome II Northwestern 55 Elijah Molden Washington 61 Shakur Brown Michigan State 65 Shaun Wade Ohio State 73 Ifeatu Melifonwu Syracuse 102 Paulson Adebo Stanford 105 Aaron Robinson UCF 110 Israel Mukuamu South Carolina 117 Eric Stokes Georgia 129 Rodarius Williams Oklahoma State 131 Keith Taylor Washington 135 Olaijah Griffin USC 156 Darren Hall San Diego State 159 Thomas Graham Jr. Oregon 160 Shemar Jean-Charles Appalachian State 164 Marco Wilson Florida165 Trill Williams Syracuse 170 D.J. Daniel Georgia171 Camryn Bynum Cal 181 Benjamin St-Juste Minnesota185 Kary Vincent Jr. LSU 199 Robert Rochell Central Arkansas Patrick Surtain, Asante Samual .. where did I hear those names before. Do bad they'll be gone when the Chiefs pick. After bringing in Dre Kirkpatrick the need for more players at CB isn't as urgent as before but West and Fenton are on the last year of their contract. And there definitely are upgrades on a Ward - Fenton - Sneed lineup possible. At minimum if you lok at next year .. (I know, rather irrelevant for TCMD right now). Edited February 25, 2021 by KC_Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC_Guy Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) OT: 2 Penei Sewell Oregon14 Rashawn Slater Northwestern 18 Christian Darrisaw Virginia Tech 24 Samuel Cosmi Texas 38 Alex Leatherwood Alabama 44 Jalen Mayfield Michigan 71 Jackson Carman Clemson 77 Liam Eichenberg Notre Dame 84 Dillon Radunz North Dakota State 87 Walker Little Stanford 96 Teven Jenkins Oklahoma State 148 Spencer K. Brown Northern Iowa 174 Alaric Jackson Iowa 176 Tommy Doyle Miami (OH) 180 James Hudson Cincinnati 187 Adrian Ealy Oklahoma 195 Brady Christensen BYU We brought in Leno to shore up the bookends, but with Leno, Remmers and the unknown Niang ... well, there is a bit of uncertainty at this position - especially if you look at depth as well. So probably a position we should not rule out to address early. In the ranking above there's another oddball ... Teven Jenkins. I've seen him everywhere from 1st to 4th round, but recently he seems to establish himself as the #5-8 OT, projected somewhere in the 2nd half of the 1st or early 2nd round. LB: 10 Micah Parsons Penn State22 Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah Notre Dame 31 Nick Bolton Missouri 36 Zaven Collins Tulsa 46 Dylan Moses Alabama 52 Jabril Cox LSU 69 Cameron McGrone Michigan 75 Chazz Surratt North Carolina 99 Baron Browning Ohio State 100 Ronnie Perkins Oklahoma 120 Pete Werner Ohio State 127 Charles Snowden Virginia 140 K.J. Britt Auburn 141 Monty Rice Georgia 144 Paddy Fisher Northwestern 190 Amen Ogbongbemiga Oklahoma State A wild mix of Linebackers. The depth chart shows Wilson, Hitchens and Gay as starters, with Whitehead and DoD behind them. Then it's down to Harris, Cobb and Smith. I'm not sure I see a need to adress this position really early from a need perspective (at least not with the same urgency as WR or OC) but improvement is possible (and added depth a need). Edited February 25, 2021 by KC_Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC_Guy Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Ok, done .. all eight positions I'm aware of being discussed as needs presented. Now .. gimme two players at each position you'd consider drafting round one who might realistically be available ... and let me know the need factor you put on that position. If you skip a position I'll accept 3 players at another position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 For the first two days, ignore CB as an option. I highly doubt one slides in any event. Really bad WR rankings and some are omitted completely, eg Rondale Moore. Fortunately for us, we need a complimentary WR, rather than a HR threat. One thing to look for is blocking, since that is where Robinson excelled. That sort of WR is available into day #3. Same problem with the OT rankings. Some Senior Bowl standouts are not even on the list. I would love a shot at Mayfield, but #44 is unrealistic. LB leaves out the Edge types, which is OK. I like that they have McGrone higher than Browning, but overall this is not a good off-ball LB draft and the rankings don't show that. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) Here's the full list if it helps.... and no these are not my rankings lol. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hayzwbiraEwxdr2tg2LqlFFzAVneZWZi9lkYKUunwak/edit#gid=1469172569 Here's the actual Draft Board, though you won't be able to filter or change anything in it. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r3EtGH8bgKDvWlRDgwffldF2WipMksoyOMpebo0iypI/edit#gid=1177407507 Edited February 24, 2021 by samsel23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 WR: Rashad Bateman - Is about the only one with a reasonable shots of falling that I would take. Edge: Ronnie Perkins, Kwity Paye, Azeez Ojulari. I wouldn't mind in the first, there's a ton of DE's around the same skill level in this draft though. Some will fall. LB: Micah Parsons and Zaven Collins are the only 2 I'd spend a 1st Rounder on. IOL: Wyatt Davis and Alijah Vera Tucker, are the only 2 I'd spend a 1st Rounder on. Humphrey would be closer if we played a different style OT: Christian Darrisaw, Rashawn Slater, Samuel Cosmi. Are probably the only 3 I'd spend a first rounder on, there's 2/3 others that are close though. I'm not against CB, if it is the very best player on the board. I don't think it's a big need though. We still got a ways to go, I'll shoot over the players take once we're around 10 picks to go. I'm still checking offers for a trade down/trade up.. but likely won't hear much till we get closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, samsel23 said: Here's the full list if it helps.... and no these are not my rankings lol. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hayzwbiraEwxdr2tg2LqlFFzAVneZWZi9lkYKUunwak/edit#gid=1469172569 Limited access J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, onejayhawk said: Limited access J should be good now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, samsel23 said: should be good now. Check. You're right. I'd be embarrassed by these as well. Christian Darrishaw at #33. Come to Daddy. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) WR 35 Terrace Marshall LSU OL 18 Christian Darrisaw Virginia Tech 24 Samuel Cosmi Texas 44 Jalen Mayfield Michigan 71 Jackson Carman Clemson 77 Liam Eichenberg Notre Dame LB 10 Micah Parsons Penn State 36 Zaven Collins Tulsa I think Parsons/Collins is my top choice if they're there. The WR and OL depth are pretty good in this class. But I'd have no problem going that way. EDIT: Just saw that Alijah Vera-Tucker wasn't listed. I think he may be our target for real in April. I'd be good taking him at 31. Edited February 24, 2021 by kingseanjohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 First 12 picks; JAC 1 QB D-0421 Trevor Lawrence QB NYJ 2 LT D-0333 Penei Sewell T DET 3 QB D-0450 Zach Wilson QB ATL 4 QB D-0239 Justin Fields QB MIA 5 WR D-0182 Ja'Marr Chase WR PHI 6 WR D-0125 DeVonta Smith WR LAC 7 TE D-0263 Kyle Pitts TE CAR 8 QB D-0423 Trey Lance QB LVR 9 43OLB D-0297 Micah Parsons OLB DAL 10 CB D-0330 Patrick Surtain II CB NYG 11 LG D-0013 Alijah Vera-Tucker G SF 12 34OLB D-0169 Gregory Rousseau DE How high would people trade up for Darrisaw or Bateman? or any others people would have interest in moving for? I typically only trade down, but I think we have the ammo to move around if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, samsel23 said: How high would people trade up for Darrisaw or Bateman? or any others people would have interest in moving for? I typically only trade down, but I think we have the ammo to move around if needed. I think the board looks good for us atm. Maybe see what it looks like at 20. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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