Millenhater Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 On paper it's hard not to get excited about this coaching staff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Louis Friend Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, flyguy1609 said: Didn't Campbell work with him previously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lions017 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) Very happy with the staff that Campbell has put together. If he has the leadership qualities that people think he does then they should get the most out of this team, which is something that we have been missing over the last few years. I struggle to think of more than a small handful of players that really developed and improved under Patricia. A lot of guys seemed to stagnate or actually get worse. Romeo Okwara is probably the one big exception. Edited January 27, 2021 by Lions017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy1609 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 14 hours ago, Louis Friend said: Didn't Campbell work with him previously? Yeah Both were on the dolphins staff in 2011-2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 16 hours ago, flyguy1609 said: FWIW - according to SI.com, Detroit had 4th ranked ST unit while Philly had the 17th. I imagine that we would have kept Coombs on staff with that kind of success had he not gone rogue. Disappointing to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SimbaWho Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I'm not disappointed from moving on from everything and anything this last regime had to offer. Players more than coaches make whatever you're doing happen. Coaches help, sure, when they're good. Or they're a road block basically most of the time. Through game management or player personnel. It's hard to be a really good coach. Matt Lefuer chasing out Aaron Rodgers isn't good. Lol. He's doom, imo, with GB if he cant figure it out with Aaron Rodgers. It's crazy to watch a coach like him overide Aaron Rodger. Bruce Arians is even smarter than that. Pick great players, fit your system around what they do well, and you'll succeed in the NFL more often than not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, SimbaWho said: I'm not disappointed from moving on from everything and anything this last regime had to offer. Players more than coaches make whatever you're doing happen. Coaches help, sure, when they're good. Or they're a road block basically most of the time. Through game management or player personnel. It's hard to be a really good coach. Matt Lefuer chasing out Aaron Rodgers isn't good. Lol. He's doom, imo, with GB if he cant figure it out with Aaron Rodgers. It's crazy to watch a coach like him overide Aaron Rodger. Bruce Arians is even smarter than that. Pick great players, fit your system around what they do well, and you'll succeed in the NFL more often than not. We kept Fraley. Not shocking as OL was the ONLY area we improved. An overhaul was needed and it seems Dan Campbell was the man to make that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, SimbaWho said: I'm not disappointed from moving on from everything and anything this last regime had to offer. Players more than coaches make whatever you're doing happen. Coaches help, sure, when they're good. Or they're a road block basically most of the time. Through game management or player personnel. It's hard to be a really good coach. Matt Lefuer chasing out Aaron Rodgers isn't good. Lol. He's doom, imo, with GB if he cant figure it out with Aaron Rodgers. It's crazy to watch a coach like him overide Aaron Rodger. Bruce Arians is even smarter than that. Pick great players, fit your system around what they do well, and you'll succeed in the NFL more often than not. We can't really say that coaches don't matter and then rag on coaches for not developing a guy. However, when you have future HOF level players on your roster, you're much smarter to let them be that coach on the field and to defer to them in a critical situation. Rodgers should have had a chance to try and make a play on 4th down. Arians figured out that he was either going to have success playing Brady's way or he was going to fail by playing Brady's way. Butting heads with Brady was a guarantee of failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimbaWho Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Karnage84 said: We can't really say that coaches don't matter and then rag on coaches for not developing a guy. However, when you have future HOF level players on your roster, you're much smarter to let them be that coach on the field and to defer to them in a critical situation. Rodgers should have had a chance to try and make a play on 4th down. Arians figured out that he was either going to have success playing Brady's way or he was going to fail by playing Brady's way. Butting heads with Brady was a guarantee of failure. I mean yeah your right, I'm just saying player talent(s) almost always trumps a coach/philosophy. Coaches directly influence how, where, and when a player plays. So yeah I'm not saying they don't matter. Clearly they do as the last regime disassembled our roster currently to fit what "they" wanted and got significantly worst, and predictably on top of that. Had they picked a few different players early and kept Diggs/Slay around. Honestly things might be totally different. A few talented players could of saved his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy1609 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, flyguy1609 said: I don't necessarily want a "brain drain". However, it would be nice to be an organization that is in the position to be raided by others as opposed to being the one that is trying to take from others to replicate success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Louis Friend Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, flyguy1609 said: I'm not sure how I feel about this one. If we draft a QB, QB coach will be a huge responsibility. I wonder if this is the "surprise hire" Dan Campbell hinted at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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