Bobby816 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, GangGreen420 said: lol Too late for that. Maybe not hugely Caserio’s fault... but it is what it is. Time to move on my man. Unless you want the distraction of a buying holding out until you trade him. His heals are dug into never playing another down for them. Get your great return in draft capital and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockice_8 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 45 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: I think it won’t be that they love a guy. I actually see us if anything sticking with Darnold and trading back, acquiring more picks and drafting Smith, Chase or Sewell in a trade back. Adding more ammo to help the offense and Darnold. If we don’t make a move for Watson... I think it’s that JD just values the picks a lot. Not that he loves a QB in the draft. For me. I’m trading up to 3 1sts and a tiny more for him. Anything more than that... let another team get him. With us at the 2nd pick... that’s what our offer should be. That 2nd pick in itself is worth multiple 1sts from other teams. And that needs to be explained to HOU in an offer. If we stick with Darnold I will be massively disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel34 Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, GangGreen420 said: lol Sure buddy!! I think your nose is growing. I think the key word is Organizationally which we all know is not true. There are some bad apples in there that Watson did not like and wants to move on. The damage is done so move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag68Sid87 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I think we should be smart as an organization and not "aggressively" pursue Watson. I think we have too many holes to go "all in" for a quarterback. I say this despite absolutely loving Watson and everything he does on a football field. I am not saying do not pursue Watson. I am saying let him come to you, do not go chasing him. If Houston is committed to keeping him, and he is committed to move on, this thing could take time. Perhaps we might even see Watson still in Houston after the start of free agency, and even after the 2021 draft. Maybe it is unlikely, but perhaps. I just don't think we are in a position where we need to throw everything at Caserio with the hope his price is met and he caves. We need to be smart about this, and we need to be patient. We are not winning a Super Bowl in 2022, so who cares who starts at QB this season? I think patience is key here. Let the situation play out, and keep tabs on the situation. Because as it stands, this situation looks like it is going to get very messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Rockice_8 said: If we stick with Darnold I will be massively disappointed. Even if we totally reload the offense in FA and draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, GangGreen420 said: lol Reminds me of Gettlemen saying he isn't trading OBJ and Douglas saying he wants Blitz Boy to be a Jet for life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, Jag68Sid87 said: I think we should be smart as an organization and not "aggressively" pursue Watson. I think we have too many holes to go "all in" for a quarterback. I say this despite absolutely loving Watson and everything he does on a football field. I am not saying do not pursue Watson. I am saying let him come to you, do not go chasing him. If Houston is committed to keeping him, and he is committed to move on, this thing could take time. Perhaps we might even see Watson still in Houston after the start of free agency, and even after the 2021 draft. Maybe it is unlikely, but perhaps. I just don't think we are in a position where we need to throw everything at Caserio with the hope his price is met and he caves. We need to be smart about this, and we need to be patient. We are not winning a Super Bowl in 2022, so who cares who starts at QB this season? I think patience is key here. Let the situation play out, and keep tabs on the situation. Because as it stands, this situation looks like it is going to get very messy. While I tend to agree, JD knows our QB situation will be solved with the addition of Watson. It is the only near guarantee when compared to keeping Sam and hoping or pick one at two and hope. That said, JD will not be taken advantage of and WILL NOT overpay. #2, next years first and either a second or third either this year or next will most likely be his max. For the Jets the real cost would be next years first and the second or third. I exclude #2 because we would possibly pick a QB there anyway. It would be a great deal for the Jets and Houston. If Houston wants that third FRP let them get it from someone else. Chances are they would need it to trade up for a QB this year. Unless Miami offers 3 FRP with one being #3. In the end we either end up with a star QB and enough draft capital to build this franchise, we end up with a rookie QB and draft capital for the future or Sam and a lot of draft capital for the future. Jets are in a great spot right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel34 Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, xrade said: While I tend to agree, JD knows our QB situation will be solved with the addition of Watson. It is the only near guarantee when compared to keeping Sam and hoping or pick one at two and hope. That said, JD will not be taken advantage of and WILL NOT overpay. #2, next years first and either a second or third either this year or next will most likely be his max. For the Jets the real cost would be next years first and the second or third. I exclude #2 because we would possibly pick a QB there anyway. It would be a great deal for the Jets and Houston. If Houston wants that third FRP let them get it from someone else. Chances are they would need it to trade up for a QB this year. Unless Miami offers 3 FRP with one being #3. In the end we either end up with a star QB and enough draft capital to build this franchise, we end up with a rookie QB and draft capital for the future or Sam and a lot of draft capital for the future. Jets are in a great spot right now. I agree 100% with this. The Jets are in a great spot and why trade all that away for a QB. I'm still with the idea that Sam can do very well in the WCO. This O is pretty much build for guys like this. I think we will see a better improved Sam and he will be fighting for the QB spot which I have always liked. I'm not a fan of an average QB always being named the starter just because they are paid like one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I’d give them 2, 34, and our 1 next year. That’s essentially 3 1RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJC33 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 The alternative to Watson likely being Fields/Wilson + two late (SEA) firsts and some change.. If that's the case, it's a no brainer to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, jetfuel34 said: I agree 100% with this. The Jets are in a great spot and why trade all that away for a QB. I'm still with the idea that Sam can do very well in the WCO. This O is pretty much build for guys like this. I think we will see a better improved Sam and he will be fighting for the QB spot which I have always liked. I'm not a fan of an average QB always being named the starter just because they are paid like one. I would still rather have Watson for essentially a mid FRP in 2022 and a SRP or TRP. He is a bonafide star QB. Sam and rookies are unknowns. The extra cost for Watson would be worth it because it would be like a warm blanket on a cold day. Also, we have not had a star QB since Namath. Watson changes that. Can’t say the same for Sam or rookie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, NJC33 said: The alternative to Watson likely being Fields/Wilson + two late (SEA) firsts and some change.. If that's the case, it's a no brainer to me. Exactly that’s how I look at it. If that’s the price... you do it. It doesn’t make a difference who’s 1st we give them next year. Bc we should be a winning team like SEA if we get Watson next draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Joe will sit back and wait. Caserio will call him because when they decide to finally move him the first team they’re going to call is us because we have the best pick available. Douglas isn’t going to get caught being thirsty, we’re in a good position regardless of the outcome. The Texans? Not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Exactly that’s how I look at it. If that’s the price... you do it. It doesn’t make a difference who’s 1st we give them next year. Bc we should be a winning team like SEA if we get Watson next draft I just hate the idea of being without a FRP in 2021, 2022 or 2023. If I could be absolutely sure we would be picking in the 20’s in 2022 and 2023, I would be more amenable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, xrade said: I just hate the idea of being without a FRP in 2021, 2022 or 2023. If I could be absolutely sure we would be picking in the 20’s in 2022 and 2023, I would be more amenable. We’ve needed a 1st round pick so bad every year Bc we haven’t had a QB. When we have one (Watson)... not having 1 one year won’t kill us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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