patriotsheatyan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 They have basically only been to the same number of Super Bowls as the league average during the Brees/Payton years and arguably don’t make it without “sweep the leg”ging Favre. Who is more to blame for only making and winning one Super Bowl, and only having three deep playoff runs in 15 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11’ and 18’ were really the only years they should’ve made it. That Saints/Niners game in 11’ is probably greatest game nobody really remembers. It’s hard to blame a QB when he’s in such steep physical decline. Peyton is responsible for more and their D was an abomination for a few years of Brees’ heyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 They took way too long to build a consistent, playoff defense. So that falls on Payton. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Defense was damn near historically bad for a number of years, and then the craziest decade of playoff losses you could imagine. Seriously, go back and look at their playoff losses from this decade before this year lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Easy answer. Defense was terrible in the early years, Brees was too old in the later years. We also are, I believe have the only two 13-3 teams to play in the wildcard round since the division realignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Forge said: Defense was damn near historically bad for a number of years, and then the craziest decade of playoff losses you could imagine. Seriously, go back and look at their playoff losses from this decade before this year lol Some of our playoff losses were so bad, they've become memes. They even have names, like Beastquake, The Catch III, Minneapolis Miracle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Jlowe22 said: Some of our playoff losses were so bad, they've become memes. They even have names, like Beastquake, The Catch III, Minneapolis Miracle It's absolutely insane. And they didn't even include a loss that prompted a rule change to make dpi reviewable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Forge said: It's absolutely insane. And they didn't even include a loss that prompted a rule change to make dpi reviewable That loss to you guys in 2011 actually changed my life lmao. I stopped getting too emotionally invested in things I have no control over after that game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49ersfan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jlowe22 said: That loss to you guys in 2011 actually changed my life lmao. I stopped getting too emotionally invested in things I have no control over after that game. That was me after the 2012 SB. I took it way too hard. Last year's SB loss sucked, don't get me wrong, but i got over it way quicker. I also have a lot more good stuff going on in my life last year/this year outside of football than i did back in 2012, so that helped. Edited January 25, 2021 by 49ersfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Payton but only in the sense that he didn’t keep his tool DC in check and that cost and derailed the team which basically made them non competitive for a good chunk of last decade. And that’s not even completely on Payton, but that situation was biggest issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, DirtyDez said: 11’ and 18’ were really the only years they should’ve made it. That Saints/Niners game in 11’ is probably greatest game nobody really remembers. It’s hard to blame a QB when he’s in such steep physical decline. Peyton is responsible for more and their D was an abomination for a few years of Brees’ heyday. They also had a decent chance to repeat in 2010 as well if they get out of Seattle. They were the fifth seed, and they would have went to two-seed Chicago (the six-seed Pack went to one-seed Atlanta). I think they could have won that one, and they would have hosted GB in the dome. No guarantees, but they would have had a fairly decent shot of beating the Pack and the Steelers (although it would have been tough). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, 7DnBrnc53 said: They also had a decent chance to repeat in 2010 as well if they get out of Seattle. They were the fifth seed, and they would have went to two-seed Chicago (the six-seed Pack went to one-seed Atlanta). I think they could have won that one, and they would have hosted GB in the dome. No guarantees, but they would have had a fairly decent shot of beating the Pack and the Steelers (although it would have been tough). That was a long shot really. 2011 and 2018 were the years, and it didn't happen. 2010 we had too many injuries. Every RB was injured, Brees had a sprained MCL, the defense was overranked due to playing some terrible QBs and got exposed in Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jlowe22 said: That was a long shot really. 2011 and 2018 were the years, and it didn't happen. 2010 we had too many injuries. Every RB was injured, Brees had a sprained MCL, the defense was overranked due to playing some terrible QBs and got exposed in Seattle. Losing to Max Hall was probably an indicator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Not much I can add that hasn't been said already. It's not Brees, it's the FO for not giving him a solid defense. And that's ALL he would have needed was a solid defense. Not elite or top-11....just average that can carry their own in the playoffs. But they couldn't even do that. The only time he had a "real" defense was in 2009 when they won the SB and lets be honest, that defense was a fraud. And that's not just saying that in hindsight. It showed that season. They were very flawed.....they would give up play after play after play and then somehow force a TO whether from a good luck play or a bad play from the offense. That's not a sustainable defense and certainly not a recipe for long-term success. Even the best QBs need a defense. You can't rely on a single player to carry the entire team. Edited January 25, 2021 by JAF-N72EX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asciimo Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 some of you are delusional. this year's defense was very good. certainly good enough to win a bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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