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Favre easily. Nobody was ever afraid of Drew Brees. Favre on  the other hand was a feared player for opposing teams. Brett was a gunslinger and made poor decisions at times but he was also incredibly clutch, good mobility and a cannon arm.  Some might argue Brees had more mental acumen for the game but Favre had his own way of doing things. Brees played in a dome and was a stat padder for most his career, and as of late has been a liability with the game on the line.

If you had to pick one to win you a football game, the answer is Brett Favre.

 

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1 hour ago, RabidPanther89 said:

Favre easily. Nobody was ever afraid of Drew Brees. Favre on  the other hand was a feared player for opposing teams. Brett was a gunslinger and made poor decisions at times but he was also incredibly clutch, good mobility and a cannon arm.  Some might argue Brees had more mental acumen for the game but Favre had his own way of doing things. Brees played in a dome and was a stat padder for most his career, and as of late has been a liability with the game on the line.

If you had to pick one to win you a football game, the answer is Brett Favre.

 

Uh, Favre was well known for throwing boneheaded picks that cost the team games.  

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47 minutes ago, rich homie said:

I think Favre had his best years before 2004 and Drew Brees is the biggest beneficiary of the emphasis on the passing game in NFL history.

I got my rule changes mixed up I thought the illegal contact stuff came later.  But, Favre was too careless with the ball for stretches of his career.  He peaked higher than Brees but it’s not like Brees didn’t have a great peak.  The MVP are media voted accolades and Brees should’ve won two maybe three. 

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50 minutes ago, El Ramster said:

Favre was actually considered the best QB for a few years. I don’t think Brees was ever put in that pedestal. 

Well, the latter had the benefit of his peak years being alongside arguably the two best QBs of all time.

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47 minutes ago, rich homie said:

I think Favre had his best years before 2004 and Drew Brees is the biggest beneficiary of the emphasis on the passing game in NFL history.

I don't think it was Brees being a beneficiary of the rule changes but more because his defense was so trash that he was forced to carry the team by throwing the ball so much. 

He put up over 5,000 yards 5 times. FIVE! And missed it by only 48 yards in 1 another year. 2008, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2016.  No are other QB in history who has more than one 5000 yard season. Five is insane. That's more than just being a beneficiary of anything.   

List of QBs who have thrown for over 5,000 yards

https://stathead.com/tiny/a7L7h

Rk Player Draft From To Tm Count
1 Drew Brees 2-32 2008 2016 NOR 5
2 Tom Brady 6-199 2011 2011 NWE 1
3 Patrick Mahomes 1-10 2018 2018 KAN 1
4 Peyton Manning 1-1 2013 2013 DEN 1
5 Dan Marino* 1-27 1984 1984 MIA 1
6 Ben Roethlisberger 1-11 2018 2018 PIT 1
7 Matthew Stafford 1-1 2011 2011 DET 1
8 Jameis Winston 1-1 2019 2019 TAM 1

 

During those years that Brees had thrown for 5,000 yards, the teams defensive DVOA's and point per drive allowed were as listed;

Year: DVOA rank (DVOA) / PPD allowed rank (PPD)

  • 2008: 19th (+4.0) / 24th (2.04)
  • 2011: 24th (+5.8) / 19th (1.84)
  • 2012: 27th (10.8) / 31st (2.27)
  • 2013: 7th (-9.1) / 8th (1.64)
  • 2014: 27th (8.7) / 31st (2.39)
  • 2016: 28th (10.4) / 32nd (2.50)
     

Below are the number of seasons any QB has thrown 4300 yards or more dating all the way back to 1920.  BTW, this list includes all QBs who have 2 or more seasons. The rest have only 1. 

https://stathead.com/tiny/eW6uu

Rk Player Draft From To Tm Count
1 Drew Brees 2-32 2006 2017 NOR 12
2 Tom Brady 6-199 2007 2020 NWE/TAM 9
3 Peyton Manning 1-1 2000 2014 IND/DEN 8
4 Philip Rivers 1-4 2010 2019 LAC 8
5 Matt Ryan 1-3 2012 2020 ATL 8
6 Aaron Rodgers 1-24 2009 2018 GNB 5
7 Matthew Stafford 1-1 2011 2017 DET 5
8 Dan Marino* 1-27 1984 1994 MIA 4
9 Andrew Luck 1-1 2012 2018 IND 3
10 Eli Manning 1-1 2011 2015 NYG 3
11 Ben Roethlisberger 1-11 2009 2018 PIT 3
12 Kurt Warner*   1999 2008 STL/ARI 3
13 Drew Bledsoe 1-1 1994 2002 NWE/BUF 2
14 Dan Fouts* 3-64 1980 1981 SDG 2
15 Jared Goff 1-1 2018 2019 LAR 2
16 Patrick Mahomes 1-10 2018 2020 KAN 2
17 Warren Moon*   1990 1991 HOU 2
18 Tony Romo   2009 2012 DAL 2
19 Matt Schaub 3-90 2009 2010 HOU 2
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45 minutes ago, Nzd07 said:

Favre. Imagine Favre's stats if he had Sean Payton and a dome for 8 games a year. We saw a glimpse of that when he had one of the best years of his career playing in a dome for Minny.

Favre was fully capable of throwing boneheaded, game losing picks in a dome.

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1 hour ago, El Ramster said:

It’s not like Brees hasn’t done it either though. 1 NFC championship in 40 years of playing is pretty bad lol. 
 

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freaking Goff has just as many.

The point is Favre is who he is.  Doesn’t matter where he played. 

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