49ersfan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mizter_Clean10 said: Never would have I thought in all my Tyler Thigpen, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Palko and Matt Cassel years as a Chiefs fans that I’d ever read comments from other NFL fans about the fatigue they have to the Chiefs success. WILD I remember there was a stat about how the Chiefs didn't have any of their drafted QB's win a start from like 1987-2017 or something. All of the Chiefs successful QB's were acquired via trade or FA; Joe Montana, Trent Green, Alex Smith, etc. I believe Croyle started like 7 games back in 08/09 and lost all of them. And then to reverse that with the best QB in the league. What a turnaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, 49ersfan said: I remember there was a stat about how the Chiefs didn't have any of their drafted QB's win a start from like 1987-2017 or something. All of the Chiefs successful QB's were acquired via trade or FA; Joe Montana, Trent Green, Alex Smith, etc. I believe Croyle started like 7 games back in 08/09 and lost all of them. And then to reverse that with the best QB in the league. What a turnaround. We've still never drafted a QB and signed him to a second contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimedes Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, bigbadbuff said: KC in a route. I said this in the other thread, but I’ll say it again, this would be the biggest win in TB12’s career. I truly believe that. I agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, RUGmen said: 19-16 Bucs Brady’s SBs are always weird aside from vs ATL. Yes, that’s 16 pts I am predicting for KC. Hill won’t have 200yds in the first half again and I think Tampa’s D will be aggressive enough to cause some fits. So, predict what you want, but the Chiefs have only scored under 20 points twice in Mahomes's career. 22 is the lowest output in the postseason, and that involved Mahomes getting concussed. Mahomes has never scored less than 31 in the postseason, when he played the full game. I won't disagree with people predicting Tampa. Great teams on both sides, or it wouldn't be the superbowl. But there's absolutely no justification behind this, beyond bold prediction for bold prediction's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: So, predict what you want, but the Chiefs have only scored under 20 points twice in Mahomes's career. 22 is the lowest output in the postseason, and that involved Mahomes getting concussed. Mahomes has never scored less than 31 in the postseason, when he played the full game. I won't disagree with people predicting Tampa. Great teams on both sides, or it wouldn't be the superbowl. But there's absolutely no justification behind this, beyond bold prediction for bold prediction's sake. Streaks are meant to be broken. I think KC’s biggest obstacle offensively will be fending off Tampa’s pass rushers if Fisher is injured. On the other hand, Spagnuolo seems to have Brady’s number. I expect a surprisingly low scoring game. Edited January 25, 2021 by Bolts223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: So, predict what you want, but the Chiefs have only scored under 20 points twice in Mahomes's career. 22 is the lowest output in the postseason, and that involved Mahomes getting concussed. Mahomes has never scored less than 31 in the postseason, when he played the full game. I won't disagree with people predicting Tampa. Great teams on both sides, or it wouldn't be the superbowl. But there's absolutely no justification behind this, beyond bold prediction for bold prediction's sake. 6 minutes ago, RUGmen said: 19-16 Bucs Brady’s SBs are always weird aside from vs ATL. Yes, that’s 16 pts I am predicting for KC. Hill won’t have 200yds in the first half again and I think Tampa’s D will be aggressive enough to cause some fits. Vegas is not in the habit of donating $. Line is set at 57, KC -3 I mean, be bold - 24-21 is bold. 27-24 is less so. 27-20 bold for TAM. 19-16 is kinda, holy mother-of-all-monsoons, Mahomes-doesn't-finish-game level out there. (I do like where his head is at overall though lol). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: We've still never drafted a QB and signed him to a second contract. Dumped Steve Young for Vincenso... ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Broncofan said: Vegas is not in the habit of donating $. Line is set at 57, KC -3 I mean, be bold - 24-21 is bold. 27-24 is less so. 27-20 bold for TAM. 19-16 is kinda, holy mother-of-all-monsoons, Mahomes-doesn't-finish-game level out there. (I do like where his head is at overall though lol). What was the line in Super Bowl XLII? How about XLVIII? I'm just saying, historically great offenses tend to sputter in Super Bowls. Especially against teams that can get after the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mizter_Clean10 said: Never would have I thought in all my Tyler Thigpen, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Palko and Matt Cassel years as a Chiefs fans that I’d ever read comments from other NFL fans about the fatigue they have to the Chiefs success. WILD Success breeds envy. People are always going to hate the best team in the league. It happened to the Cowboys in 90's, it happened to the Patriots, it happened to the Pistons, it happened to the Lakers, it happened to the Warriors, it happened to Mayweather, it happened to tiger, etc, etc Just enjoy it while you can, man. I know I would. And FWIW, not all fans are that way. Not this one anyhow. I personally feel privileged enough to have been able to watch Brady, Peyton, Rodgers, and Brees throughout their entire careers and seen both ups and downs, and now I get to do the same with Mahomes as well and I'm fine with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Starless said: What was the line in Super Bowl XLII? How about XLVIII? I'm just saying, historically great offenses tend to sputter in Super Bowls. Especially against teams that can get after the QB. While this is true you could say the SB matchup last year was an historically great offense vs a team that can get after the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Bold prediction if the Bucs do win AB becomes the SMVP and the NFL World goes crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, SkippyX said: Dumped Steve Young for Vincenso... ugh Steve Young doesn't become Steve Young with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But we helped the dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Blackstar12 said: Bold prediction if the Bucs do win AB becomes the SMVP and the NFL World goes crazy. I actually wonder who getting SB MVP would be more controversial - Hill or AB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Bolts223 said: On the other hand, Spagnuolo seems to have Brady’s number. The Giants and NASCAR were great in 2007 but Brady played that game with a high ankle sprain suffered in the AFCCG. He put up 38 on him 5 weeks before the Super Bowl. 2011 was Perry Fewell (Spags coaching in St Louis?) In 2019 Brady had a bad offense around him. In 2015 Brady went for 334 beating his Giants D. Am I missing something? Edited January 25, 2021 by SkippyX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Bolts223 said: While this is true you could say the SB matchup last year was an historically great offense vs a team that can get after the QB. Yup. And it took a total collapse of the 49ers offense to let the Chiefs back into that game. This is where the QB matchup really does matter. Are Brady and Arians going to make the same mistakes that Garoppolo and Shanahan did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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