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Update: ‘21 Rookie Contract PPE (Key, Hurst, Parker)


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https://frontofficenfl.com/2020/06/04/2020-nfl-cba-explained-proven-performance-escalator-ppe-in-rookie-contracts/
 

Key, Hurst, and Parker all met the Tier1 PPE and thus their base salaries will jump to 2.180M.  This will effectively have a cap effect of -3.670544M on our ‘21 cap, IF all 3 players make the team in ‘21.  If they don’t then the change in base salary due to PPE has effect.

In other news the Raiders carried over $3.573971M of cap space over to ‘21 from ‘20.

  Off Def            
2018 1042 1028            
2019 1021 1044            
2020 1083 1089            
  3146 3161            
                 
  2018   2019   2020   3yr  
Brandon Parker 780 0.749 193 0.189 346 0.319 1319 0.419
Arden Key 644 0.626 179 0.171 434 0.399 1257 0.398
Maurice Hurst 472 0.459 522 0.500 277 0.254 1271 0.402

 

effective salary cap change:
     
Brandon Parker $2,447,606 $1,303,062 $1,144,544
Arden Key $2,389,594 $1,126,594 $1,263,000
Maurice Hurst $2,262,763 $999,763 $1,263,000
       
Total:     $3,670,544

 

 

 

 

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In My nifty and time consuming to make spreadsheet didn’t paste well into the post.  That’s very annoying, iPhones stink.

anyways.::. Does this Change the chances for these players to make the team next year and thus add to our list of needs?

I know Parker had played better but because of the new higher cost I’m leaning towards wanting to cut him and draft his replacement or sign a veteran for the minimum.  Miller is rock solid durable and never misses a snap.  Idk If there’s money in the budget for 2.448M backup LT.  Maybe we save the 2.18M and cut him (and eat the final year of SB proration).  it’s not like Parker’s ever going to be become a starter.  We could save a million dollars by going with a vet min replacement.

Hurst has been a big disappointment to me, but he’s definitely worth keeping. I’ve seen enough good to cling to some degree of false hope that a DC change will help him.  I never say him As 1st round pick like some. He was always a mid 2nd rounder who really needed to be in the right system to flourish given his lack of length and weight.  I think he could still develop into a solid backup / more of a pass rush specialist.

Im a curious to see Key under Bradley. But I’d also much rather resign McKinley or Beasley for the vet min then pay Key to be the 4th DE.  I’d keep him through camp but he could easily get cut.

what’s your thoughts? I’m curious.

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I see all 3 as backups who might be on their last year with the team. Wish they would have panned out to become starters, but I see all 3 as purely backups 

Parker- actual was decent when he played LT. Even if Miller doesn’t miss much time, nice to have a capable backup LT. 2.4 isn’t too bad for depth at a key spot. 

Hurst- just a reserve, and the unit sucks. So likely a lock to be on Raiders in 2021. 
 

Key- hoping Key and/or Hurst show more with a good coaching scheme. Basically be their make or break year to earn a second contract. I would bring back Takk and let Key battle him for a roster spot. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Key getting cut if he doesn’t have a good camp. 
 

I see all 3 as reserves and on the team next year. 
 

My cut list includes: MM, Richie, Brown, Joyner, Williams 

If we need more money rework: Nassib and Jackson’s contracts 

 

we should be okay with money with those cuts 

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14 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said:

In My nifty and time consuming to make spreadsheet didn’t paste well into the post.  That’s very annoying, iPhones stink.

anyways.::. Does this Change the chances for these players to make the team next year and thus add to our list of needs?

I know Parker had played better but because of the new higher cost I’m leaning towards wanting to cut him and draft his replacement or sign a veteran for the minimum.  Miller is rock solid durable and never misses a snap.  Idk If there’s money in the budget for 2.448M backup LT.  Maybe we save the 2.18M and cut him (and eat the final year of SB proration).  it’s not like Parker’s ever going to be become a starter.  We could save a million dollars by going with a vet min replacement.

Hurst has been a big disappointment to me, but he’s definitely worth keeping. I’ve seen enough good to cling to some degree of false hope that a DC change will help him.  I never say him As 1st round pick like some. He was always a mid 2nd rounder who really needed to be in the right system to flourish given his lack of length and weight.  I think he could still develop into a solid backup / more of a pass rush specialist.

Im a curious to see Key under Bradley. But I’d also much rather resign McKinley or Beasley for the vet min then pay Key to be the 4th DE.  I’d keep him through camp but he could easily get cut.

what’s your thoughts? I’m curious.

Parker - If we cut him this will be the year Miller goes down and Parker will be a good starter on another team.

Hurst - Has been a disappointment but was a 5th round pick so not much lost.  Only issue is who else do we have at DT?

Key - Is a another disappointment but I am also curios to see him in the new system.  Might be a nice fit for the SLB role in a 4-3 under.

I do not like any of them at $2+ million.

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1 hour ago, Humble_Beast said:

I see all 3 as backups who might be on their last year with the team. Wish they would have panned out to become starters, but I see all 3 as purely backups 

Parker- actual was decent when he played LT. Even if Miller doesn’t miss much time, nice to have a capable backup LT. 2.4 isn’t too bad for depth at a key spot. 

Hurst- just a reserve, and the unit sucks. So likely a lock to be on Raiders in 2021. 
 

Key- hoping Key and/or Hurst show more with a good coaching scheme. Basically be their make or break year to earn a second contract. I would bring back Takk and let Key battle him for a roster spot. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Key getting cut if he doesn’t have a good camp. 
 

I see all 3 as reserves and on the team next year. 
 

My cut list includes: MM, Richie, Brown, Joyner, Williams 

If we need more money rework: Nassib and Jackson’s contracts 

 

we should be okay with money with those cuts 

The only way to rework Nassib’s contract is to convert his 5.75M guaranteed roster bonus or 3.75M salary into a prorated signing bonus.  Either way this just pushes the cap hit into future years, years he isn’t likely to be here.  He holds all the power and we simply can’t renegotiate a lesser salary in exchange for guaranteed salary.  
In construction you always have it in the contract and physically collect more of the customers money then you’ve already done work for... so if they stop paying or try and play hardball/complain your in the position of power.  Conversely in Football you should never be “under water” on a contract and give the player leverage.    If we had to agree to 9.5m in compensation for year 2... which was way too high to begin with...He should have been given a 7.5M salary and 2M guaranteed roster bonus.  Thus, if he wanted to walk with 2M he could but if he wanted to take 4m guaranteed instead of possibly 7M or possibly being cut at the end of camp and in position to get a very small deal.

Before the new league year we could convert the 5.75M into a signing bonus, just like we did with Joyner, and thus spread it out over 3 years (and even 5 if we add void years).  We could also June 1st cut him and defer the cost.  We don’t need his approval to do this type of restructuring.

Overall though, i say just keep him For ‘21 and cut him in ‘22 with no dead cap OR cut him before his 3.75M salary guarantees and eat the 5.75m this year.

Either way it’s a bad deal and could easily have been forsaken at signings (which I did)

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2 hours ago, oakdb36 said:

You make those decisions in august.

This each deserves a shot to earn a roster spot, but nothing guaranteed and surely not worth changing draft plans about. All three need to prove a bit more for extensions, but I would think Hurst is nearest to a budget extension whereas the other two are closer to roster bubble.

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Key is a waste of a roster spot at this point. rotational pass rush specialist who doesnt regularly generate pressure. Unless Bradley is totally sold on him for some reason.

Hurst should be back, and should be featured more on the line.

Brandon Parker, going back to college, has only shown well at LT and not RT, so if your goal is to have a swing tackle, he ain't it.

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On 1/26/2021 at 10:41 AM, oakdb36 said:

You make those decisions in august.

Yeah I don’t think you cut any of them now.  We don’t need the cap space that badly.  
 

Releasing them from their 2.183M salary really doesn’t free up much space because you have to figure your going to replace them with someone making something close to that.

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8 hours ago, jimkelly02 said:

Yeah I don’t think you cut any of them now.  We don’t need the cap space that badly.  
 

Releasing them from their 2.183M salary really doesn’t free up much space because you have to figure your going to replace them with someone making something close to that.

I agree and keep them as role players until they can be replaced with better talent.  

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On 1/27/2021 at 1:14 PM, Turnobili said:

Key is a waste of a roster spot at this point. rotational pass rush specialist who doesnt regularly generate pressure. Unless Bradley is totally sold on him for some reason.

Hurst should be back, and should be featured more on the line.

Brandon Parker, going back to college, has only shown well at LT and not RT, so if your goal is to have a swing tackle, he ain't it.

On 2/14/2021 at 2:54 PM, KlenlyKenny said:

Hurst is who I can see being replaceable. Key and Parker are both role players but they've both seen decent amounts of field action. 

Agreed on Hurst @Turnobili he's the only one that I'd be upset about losing. He has flashed but just hasn't ever put it all together, with that being said I think he's still solid depth to have on the DL. 

Parker is whatever, I won't be mad if he's brought back, but I also won't be mad if he's gone. 

Key has had every opportunity imaginable to make an impact and has done nothing. 

 

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