MrBobGray Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Think people think of Lowry as something he's not. He's not just a high effort guy, there to eat snaps and just sort of exist, dude has legit physical talent. 6'6", 296 lbs, ran a 4.87 40. There's been 100 DL that ran <4.9 at > 280 lbs in the last 20 years, and Lowry is one of them. More than that, among those 100 DL, he ranks: T-35th in vertical jump, 32.5" T-18th in broad jump, 114" T-19th in short shuttle, 4.38s 18th in 3-cone, 7.26 T-22nd in bench, 30 reps Lowry's issue is short arms on a tall guy without much of an anchor. He absolutely can play the run and isn't half bad at it, he's just going to have some tough reps at times. That being said, I feel Pettine didn't get great use out of Lowry either. This DL/EDGE group should be one-gapping as much as possible, not having guys like Lowry try to consistently hold double teams or Z try to read and react . Spill everything to Savage/Amos in the alley and let your freaks up front just attack a gap. Jaire/Sullivan/King are all damn good force players; Jaire gets the rep because he's impossible to block but all three of those guys will take the fight to their WR. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, MrBobGray said: Think people think of Lowry as something he's not. He's not just a high effort guy, there to eat snaps and just sort of exist, dude has legit physical talent. 6'6", 296 lbs, ran a 4.87 40. There's been 100 DL that ran <4.9 at > 280 lbs in the last 20 years, and Lowry is one of them. More than that, among those 100 DL, he ranks: T-35th in vertical jump, 32.5" T-18th in broad jump, 114" T-19th in short shuttle, 4.38s 18th in 3-cone, 7.26 T-22nd in bench, 30 reps Lowry's issue is short arms on a tall guy without much of an anchor. He absolutely can play the run and isn't half bad at it, he's just going to have some tough reps at times. That being said, I feel Pettine didn't get great use out of Lowry either. This DL/EDGE group should be one-gapping as much as possible, not having guys like Lowry try to consistently hold double teams or Z try to read and react . Spill everything to Savage/Amos in the alley and let your freaks up front just attack a gap. Jaire/Sullivan/King are all damn good force players; Jaire gets the rep because he's impossible to block but all three of those guys will take the fight to their WR. I'm not sure many are doubting Lowry's physical tools. The production that those physical tools lead to ( or don't lead to) are the issue. 2020: 601 snaps and 10 QB pressures 2019: 637 snaps and 5 QB pressures 2018: 697 snaps and 14 QB pressures 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 7 hours ago, cannondale said: You want to take the best Edge and make him play DL full time, where he can't possibly sustain, and you want to take the worst Edge and play him full time at Edge ? You want a WR in the First 2 rounds dont you If we do swap to a 4-3 it works.. DE: Zadarius,Gary,Preston,Ramsey DT: Clark,Keke,Lowry LBs: Parsons or Collins,Martin, Barnes, Summers, Burks job done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) The counter-point on King. Unless you can make the excuse that he was poorly used (which frankly sounds like a cop-out), King is the very definition of an "average" (at best) CB. Per the numbers, he's actually less than that over his 4-year career. Can we win with that? Well, we can at least get to conference championship games with it apparently. We'll be talking about this move a lot during the season. Hope it works out. Edited March 24, 2021 by packfanfb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 There is no way anyone would feel excited about this move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 9 hours ago, cannondale said: Ask Ken if we are going to run the vaunted 1-6 defense Only in obvious running situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I don't hate or love the King signing. It's definitely better to get him cheaper than what people on here thought he would get (10 a year). If King goes back to 2019 King than this signing was a good one. I just hope this doesn't make them so comfortable at the position because of resigning King and even Sully so they don't have to get a CB early in the draft. I know they have doubled/tripled down on positions in the past, but you just never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantyWrestler Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 After the draft, King will make an excellent third CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 14 hours ago, skibrett15 said: He's a bench quality player I agree Dean a bench/low end starter. I was more arguing that considering the dead cap implications and the fact we’d only save 3.3m, he’s worth keeping. We aren’t getting someone better for 3.3 or less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) nvm Edited March 24, 2021 by packfanfb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehead430 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 "BuT KInG Is A GREaT NuMBeR TwO CoRnEr" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Punting Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Prophetic take on King from late last year: "The weak link across from Jaire may cost Green Bay in January" Kevin King's struggles Edited March 24, 2021 by Les Punting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Cheesehead430 said: "BuT KInG Is A GREaT NuMBeR TwO CoRnEr" NOBODY is arguing that. Stop trying to make an argument that nobody is trying to make. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, Les Punting said: Prophetic take on King from late last year: "The weak link across from Jaire may cost Green Bay in January" Kevin King's struggles are you rcon? he used to post here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) That post June 1 for Lowry might be on the table if the Packers sign a DT or double up in the draft perhaps. To me, gaining cap still comes down to 2 players: Rodgers and Adams. Edited March 24, 2021 by packfanfb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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