skibrett15 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: yeah that's what I'm curious about. Would be great if we can make a draft-day trade for a DL... https://russellstreetreport.com/salarycap/nfl-salary-cap-faqs/ Do unsigned Draft picks count against the Salary Cap? Yes, once drafted, draft picks are assigned a tender equal to the rookie minimum salary for that year. For 2021 that amount is $660K. That tender amount is replaced by the player’s actual Salary Cap number once the draft pick signs his rookie contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, skibrett15 said: https://russellstreetreport.com/salarycap/nfl-salary-cap-faqs/ Do unsigned Draft picks count against the Salary Cap? Yes, once drafted, draft picks are assigned a tender equal to the rookie minimum salary for that year. For 2021 that amount is $660K. That tender amount is replaced by the player’s actual Salary Cap number once the draft pick signs his rookie contract. not in the top 51 then until signed. makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 hours ago, {Family Ghost} said: We will get none of them and not like it very much. Did we sign Jarran Reed yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 hours ago, thrILL! said: Did we sign Jarran Reed yet? yeah. But we traded him for Patrick Surtain Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 8 hours ago, craig said: Who does this benefit and what is the motivation? Obviously the voidable years defer the cap hit for the Packers. But voiding the contract 22 days early, is that King's agent, trying to motivate the Packers to get him resigned next February before the deal voids and they get stuck with the dead cap hit? I don't get it.... I don't think there's any real reason for it. Or at least nothing that makes sense. I think the only motivation would be that it might incentivize the Packers to get an extension done to keep the void years from accelerating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgwingman Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Has anyone done a deeper dive on the 2022 offseason? With all the cap hits being pushed out, how much trouble will we be in after this season? I get the impression we'll be capped out next offseason even with the cap going back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 46 minutes ago, pgwingman said: Has anyone done a deeper dive on the 2022 offseason? With all the cap hits being pushed out, how much trouble will we be in after this season? I get the impression we'll be capped out next offseason even with the cap going back up. We're sitting at $216 million (project $7million over) BUT Z and Preston will be restructured. Lowry will be gone. So that's $55 million that will be remedied right there. Not to mention it's likely Jaire gets a new deal, Rodgers may be restructured, Crosby may be gone and King's $3million are fake. So there's another $60 million that is potentially move-aroundable. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/cap/2022/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 55 minutes ago, pgwingman said: Has anyone done a deeper dive on the 2022 offseason? With all the cap hits being pushed out, how much trouble will we be in after this season? I get the impression we'll be capped out next offseason even with the cap going back up. Not much once we trade Rodgers away next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgwingman Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: Not much once we trade Rodgers away next year. Ugh. I reread this like 4 times and thought it was stupid, trolling, crazy, and the most likely outcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, pgwingman said: Ugh. I reread this like 4 times and thought it was stupid, trolling, crazy, and the most likely outcome That's where it's headed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, pgwingman said: Has anyone done a deeper dive on the 2022 offseason? With all the cap hits being pushed out, how much trouble will we be in after this season? I get the impression we'll be capped out next offseason even with the cap going back up. Right now, Spotrac is showing them 23.8m over the cap for 2022, with only 30 players on the roster. This assumes a league cap of 192.5m. If you add filler-contracts to get up to 51 players, that adds another 16.4m (780k per, judging by who is making this year's threshold). Plus 2m differential for 2022 draft picks. So we're starting out at -42.2m cap space. 2021 Rollover will probably be peanuts. Cutting P.Smith and Lowry brings us up to -25.5m space. This number assumes D.Adams is not re-signed. Further opportunities for savings: A.Rodgers: 39.9m cap hit (17.2m dead)= trading clears 22.7m. 2yr extension probably clears maybe 15m in 2022. Z.Smith: 27.9m cap hit (12.1m dead)= cut/trade clears 15.0m. Extension clears maybe 9m. A.Amos: 11.4m cap hit (2.8m dead)= cut/trade clears 7.8m. Extension clears maybe 3.9m. B.Turner: 9.0m cap hit (4.9m dead)= cut/trade clears 3.3m. Extension clears maybe 2.7m. Possible Restructures: K.Clark: currently 14.95m in base-salary/roster-bonus. if spread over remainder of deal, clears 9.0m in 2022. D.Bak: 13.20m in base-salary/roster-bonus. if spread over remainder of deal, clears 7.8m in 2022. J.Alexander: currently 13.29m cap hit (5th yr option). could be reduced if extended. Using Ramsey's deal as a baseline, I'm guessing we could drop Alexander's 2022 hit by 5m. So theoretically, I think we could scrape-by without doing anything with Rodgers' deal, but we'd have to do something with basically all the other contracts listed above. Or let D.Adams walk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, {Family Ghost} said: That's where it's headed. Based on zoom calls with Love ?? I'm not buying it. The Packers aren't moving on from Rodgers until they're positive Love is the guy, and I can't see any possible way they already know that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, TransientTexan said: Right now, Spotrac is showing them 23.8m over the cap for 2022, with only 30 players on the roster. This assumes a league cap of 192.5m. If you add filler-contracts to get up to 51 players, that adds another 16.4m (780k per, judging by who is making this year's threshold). Plus 2m differential for 2022 draft picks. So we're starting out at -42.2m cap space. 2021 Rollover will probably be peanuts. Cutting P.Smith and Lowry brings us up to -25.5m space. This number assumes D.Adams is not re-signed. Further opportunities for savings: A.Rodgers: 39.9m cap hit (17.2m dead)= trading clears 22.7m. 2yr extension probably clears maybe 15m in 2022. Z.Smith: 27.9m cap hit (12.1m dead)= cut/trade clears 15.0m. Extension clears maybe 9m. A.Amos: 11.4m cap hit (2.8m dead)= cut/trade clears 7.8m. Extension clears maybe 3.9m. B.Turner: 9.0m cap hit (4.9m dead)= cut/trade clears 3.3m. Extension clears maybe 2.7m. Possible Restructures: K.Clark: currently 14.95m in base-salary/roster-bonus. if spread over remainder of deal, clears 9.0m in 2022. D.Bak: 13.20m in base-salary/roster-bonus. if spread over remainder of deal, clears 7.8m in 2022. J.Alexander: currently 13.29m cap hit (5th yr option). could be reduced if extended. Using Ramsey's deal as a baseline, I'm guessing we could drop Alexander's 2022 hit by 5m. So theoretically, I think we could scrape-by without doing anything with Rodgers' deal, but we'd have to do something with basically all the other contracts listed above. Or let D.Adams walk. you gloss over the most important detail: The 2022 cap is not going to be $192.5 million 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, incognito_man said: you gloss over the most important detail: The 2022 cap is not going to be $192.5 million Well, no one has declared what the cap will be. They are borrowing off of that cap to help the 2021 cap. Many here were insisting that the 2021 cap hit would be much higher than the early 180m projections, but at the end of the day, it wasn’t far off. Edited March 26, 2021 by TransientTexan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, TransientTexan said: Well, no one has declared what the cap will be. They are borrowing off of that cap to help the 2021 cap. "Borrowing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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