ET80 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, N4L said: everyone who is upset bienemy didnt get the job doesnt realize he probably turned them down. This is quite the stretch here - not specific to the Houston job, he's interviewed close to 12 times in the last three years. I can understand he'd be selective for the Texans gig, but what about everywhere else? What about last cycle when he was beaten by the likes of Joe Judge? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ET80 said: This is quite the stretch here - not specific to the Houston job, he's interviewed close to 12 times in the last three years. I can understand he'd be selective for the Texans gig, but what about everywhere else? What about last cycle when he was beaten by the likes of Joe Judge? The problem is that everyone is dumbing it down to “Bienemy is the OC of a great offense, therefore he must be a great HC”. When the truth is he has a myriad of question marks that don’t make him a great looking candidate and on top of that he doesn’t interview well and this is leaked like every year. Take Judge, Judge reportedly nailed his interview and had Saban and Belichick calling him invaluable and writing letters for him. OC to HC is not a one to one jump. They are two different positions with hugely differently responsibilities that don’t all overlap. Edited January 28, 2021 by lancerman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Definitely not an inspiring hire, but who knows? Maybe it'll work out as he wouldn't be the first successful coach who was considered an out there hire. But yeah, definitely can't blame Houston fans for feeling very underwhelmed by this hire. It seemed like this was Bieniemy's job to lose. Hate that the Ravens get two third round picks out of this, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, ET80 said: This is quite the stretch here - not specific to the Houston job, he's interviewed close to 12 times in the last three years. I can understand he'd be selective for the Texans gig, but what about everywhere else? What about last cycle when he was beaten by the likes of Joe Judge? Maybe he's just terrible at interviews? Really only plausible explanation, IMO. I think that was the reason it took Zimmer a long time to finally get a head coaching gig. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, lancerman said: The problem is that everyone is dumbing it down to “Bienemy is the OC of a great offense, therefore he must be a great HC”. When the truth is he has a myriad of question marks that don’t make him a great looking candidate and on top of that he doesn’t interview well and this is leaked like every year. Take Judge, Judge reportedly nailed his interview and had Saban and Belichick calling him invaluable and writing letters for him. OC to HC is not a one to one jump. They are two different positions with hugely differently responsibilities that don’t all overlap. Exactly.... tired of hearing about Bienemy not getting a HC job. Because he's on Andy's staff with an elite talented offense he's entitled to a job? There is more to being a leader than being a coordinator on a talented team. There is something no resonating with teams in interviews it's apparent. Tired of the media acting like Bienemy not getting hired is a travesty and trying to make an issue out of it. He's getting interviews and clearly not nailing them or he'd have a job. That simple in my view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, DawgX said: Maybe he's just terrible at interviews? I mean, Bruce Arians and Tony Dungy were apparently bad at interviews too - I don't think anyone is really lamenting their hiring now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 hours ago, ET80 said: *Sigh* Welp, I'm out. Someone wake me when Cal McNair sells the team. You're always welcome in Browns Town. From 1995-1998, I essentially became a Bills fan who also loved the Titans because of Eddie George (my dude at OSU), making the Music City Miracle super weird for me emotionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, ET80 said: I mean, Bruce Arians and Tony Dungy were apparently bad at interviews too - I don't think anyone is really lamenting their hiring now. Both those guys didn’t have to answer: -so you had mediocre coaching tenure at a major state college program -you don’t call plays in your offense -you didn’t develop the league leading elite QB who runs your offense -the two best skill players on your offense were both all pros before you got there -explain all these legal issues that the media will ask about once you get hired ...on top of bad interviews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drd23 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said: Why does the team that loses the minority coach get the comp picks? Shouldn't it be the team that gives the coach a promotion? Doesn't make any sense to me. Unless I'm missing something. Which I'm sure I am. Its an attempt to encourage teams to develop minority candidates lower down the food chain so that they are more qualified minority options available to be hired when a HC or GM job opens up. Giving the comp picks to the team doing the hiring would open up the new minority HC or GM to assertions that they didn't get the job on merit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: You're always welcome in Browns Town. Sorry: 23 hours ago, ET80 said: Nope. I put some thought into this... I'm going the @ramssuperbowl99 route on this. I'm not really joining a team, but I am wishing hellfire and brimstone for the Texans - just a nuclear disaster internally and externally, everyone there needs to lose several billion dollars in this single transaction. I want everything to be an abject failure going forward (and I'm sort of there, even if they DO work things out with Watson; I might shift if Bieniemy comes in at the last second, but I might give that less than 1% odds). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Lol I wonder what angle the media is gonna go with this since Bienemy didn’t get the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, drd23 said: Its an attempt to encourage teams to develop minority candidates lower down the food chain so that they are more qualified minority options available to be hired when a HC or GM job opens up. Giving the comp picks to the team doing the hiring would open up the new minority HC or GM to assertions that they didn't get the job on merit Okay makes sense now. Seems like a lot of loopholes and gray areas there but I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirill Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 The Texans were never going to hire Bieniemy. Anyone who knows anything about the McNair family already knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, lancerman said: The problem is that everyone is dumbing it down to “Bienemy is the OC of a great offense, therefore he must be a great HC”. When the truth is he has a myriad of question marks that don’t make him a great looking candidate and on top of that he doesn’t interview well and this is leaked like every year. Take Judge, Judge reportedly nailed his interview and had Saban and Belichick calling him invaluable and writing letters for him. OC to HC is not a one to one jump. They are two different positions with hugely differently responsibilities that don’t all overlap. This is such rubbish. You're telling me that Dan "We're gonna bite their kneecaps off" Campbell is a better interviewer than Bieniemy? You're telling me Arthur "I literally have no personality and might be a serial killer" Smith is a better interviewer than Bieniemy? You're telling me that only Bieniemy has question marks when it comes to being a head coach? There are so many unqualified morons who have gotten head coaching gigs who are clearly not qualified - Freddie Kitchens being a prime example of this. It just blows my mind that when it comes to Bieniemy, there's always an excuse for why you shouldn't hire him, but for literally anyone else it's an excuse for why you should. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's important that the new HC have spiritual faith - with Watson gone, and likely more dismantling on the horizon, they're going to need to pray a lot to win games the next few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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