TL-TwoWinsAway Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, SkippyX said: Go look at the records of those comeback teams His first 20 GWDs included exactly 1 team with a winning record, the 2012 Seahawks. You can check out the rest if you like. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=StafMa00 What an utterly useless argument. Five of those "first 20" teams finished that season 8-8 or 7-8-1, meaning that, had the Lions failed to pull off the win, those teams would've finished the season with a winning record. Why are you going to such lengths to discredit him? You've even admitted that the metrics really don't mean much as it relates to Stafford. Why are you still going on like this? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 55 minutes ago, SkippyX said: Go look at the records of those comeback teams His first 20 GWDs included exactly 1 team with a winning record, the 2012 Seahawks. You can check out the rest if you like. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=StafMa00 Those teams records aren't really relevant. If anything, the opponents defensive ranking would hold some weight. But even then, the Rams offense failed to produce a 4th quarter comeback/game winning drive against the Jets and Niners this year - one bad defense and one good defense, same result. Both were also "bad teams" for whatever that's worth to you. I don't know where to find the numbers, but I'd love to see Goff vs Stafford for the last 5 or 6 minutes of the 4th quarter over the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: Those teams records aren't really relevant. If anything, the opponents defensive ranking would hold some weight. But even then, the Rams offense failed to produce a 4th quarter comeback/game winning drive against the Jets and Niners this year - one bad defense and one good defense, same result. Both were also "bad teams" for whatever that's worth to you. I don't know where to find the numbers, but I'd love to see Goff vs Stafford for the last 5 or 6 minutes of the 4th quarter over the last few years. And there are things going against Stafford too. Like this year when he should have had a 4th q comeback but the rookie dropped an easy one ftl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I like both players, of love to see them square off in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 There is no way that Goff had negative value in that trade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACO Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Wow. I am kind of surprised by that deal but then again not. I also showing they seem to be leaning toward a vet over a rookie but I still think they will draft one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingo18287 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Schefter also said the Lions originally asked for Aaron Donald in the Stafford trade. Lol, I guess shoot your shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I would rather have the 8th pick in this years draft over the low end first round picks the next two years. Lions really shot their shot asking for 99 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACO Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dingo18287 said: Schefter also said the Lions originally asked for Aaron Donald in the Stafford trade. Lol, I guess shoot your shot. I aint made at it. I would have too. Looool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Man, I don't know if Holmes saw this coming, but it was smart to get this deal done quickly. Now multiple teams, per reports, are asking about Darnold, about Wentz... its like every middle of the road QB in the league is in demand. Stafford could have gotten lost in the shuffle and teams could have used interest in these other guys to drive the price down. I like this deal more and more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dingo18287 said: Schefter also said the Lions originally asked for Aaron Donald in the Stafford trade. Lol, I guess shoot your shot. Mina sums it up nicely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Superduperman said: Man, I don't know if Holmes saw this coming, but it was smart to get this deal done quickly. Now multiple teams, per reports, are asking about Darnold, about Wentz... its like every middle of the road QB in the league is in demand. Stafford could have gotten lost in the shuffle and teams could have used interest in these other guys to drive the price down. I like this deal more and more. I would have taken the Carolina deal, but other than that, I think it was wise to get it going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Forge said: I would have taken the Carolina deal, but other than that, I think it was wise to get it going I think in any other year I would have as well. But it's pretty much a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, BofaDeez54927 said: I think in any other year I would have as well. But it's pretty much a wash. Yeah, if there was a year not to do it it's probably this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACO Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 37 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: I would rather have the 8th pick in this years draft over the low end first round picks the next two years. Lions really shot their shot asking for 99 lol The issue was Stafford clearly wanted to be in LA and they all made the best trade they could to accommodate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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