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Lions trade the 7th pick to the Football Team for their 19th pick, S.F. 3rd round pick, and a 2nd round pick in 2022.

Lions cut Justin Coleman, Danny Shelton, Nick Williams, Christian Jones, Austin Bryant, Anthony Pittman,Nick Bawden, Jasohn Cornell, David Blough, John Atkins, Frees over 18 million.

 

1st – (WAS) Najee Harris, RB. Alabama. ( 6’1, 230lbs. )

2nd – Liam Eichenberg, OT. Notre Dame. ( 6’6, 305lbs. )

3rd – Pete Werner, LB. Ohio State. ( 6’3, 245lbs. )

3rd – (S.F.viaWAS) Quincey Roche, Edge Rusher. ( 6’3, 245lbs. )

3rd – (L.A.R.) Tyler Shelvin, DT. LSU. ( 6’3, 360lbs. )

4th – Kyle Trask, QB. Florida. ( 6’5, 240lbs. )

5th – Caden Sterns, S. Texas. ( 6’0, 210lbs. )

 

Lions sign DT Delvin Tomlinson to a 4 year deal worth 28 million dollars, 10 million dollar signing bonus. 20 million guaranteed.

Lions sign WR Corey Davis to a 3 year deal worth 25 million dollars, 7 million dollar signing bonus. 15 million guaranteed.

Lions sign WR Josh Reynolds to a 3 year deal worth 15 million dollars, 3 million dollar signing bonus.

Lions sign DT Jaleel Johnson to a 3 year deal worth 15 million dollars, 3 million dollar signing bonus.

Lions sign K Younghoe Koo to a 3 year deal worth 7.5 million, 1.5 million dollar signing bonus.

Lions sign LB Neville Hewitt to a 2 year deal worth 6.5 million, 2.5 million dollar signing bonus.

Lions LS Taybor Pepper to a 3 year deal worth 3.5 million, 500k dollar signing bonus.

Lions sign C Tyler Shatley to a 1 year deal worth league minimum.

Lions sign CB Arthur Maulet to a 1 year deal worth league minimum.

Lions resign CB Darryl Roberts to a 1 year deal worth league minimum.

Lions resign LB/FB Jason Cabina to a 1 year RFA offer.

 

Roster:

RT: Liam Eichenberg, Halapoulivaati Vaitai

RG: Tyrell Crosby, Logan Stenberg

OC: Frank Ragnow, Russell Bodine

LG: Jonah Jackson, Joe Dahl

LT: Taylor Decker, Matt Nelson

RB: Najee Harris, D’Andre Swift, Kerryon Johnson

FB: Jason Cabina

QB: Jared Goff, Chase Daniels, Kyle Trask

WR: Corey Davis, Josh Reynolds, Quintez Cephus, Geronimo Allison, Victor Bolden

TE: T.J. Hockenson, Jesse James, Hunter Bryant

 

DE: Delvin Tomlinson, Deshawn Hand

NT: John Penisini, Tyler Shelvin

DE: Jaleel Johnson, Kevin Strong

OLB: Trey Flowers, Quincey Roche

MLB: Pete Werner, Dion Hamilton

MLB: Neville Hewitt, Jahlani Tavai

OLB: Jamie Collins, Julian Okwara

CB: Desmond Trufant, Jeff Okudah

Nickle: Darryl Roberts, Michael Ford

S: Caden Sterns, Will Harris

S: Tracy Walker, C.J. Moore

CB: Amani Oruwariye, Arthur Maulet

 

LS: Taybor Pepper

P: Jack Fox

K: Younghoe Koo

KR/PR: Victor Bolden

 

 

 

Have fun and butcher it up fellas! 

* Tried making a power run team, bookend tackles. Tried to strengthen the 3-4 front, if that's going to be our principle alignment. Likely going to lose Golladay(IMO), so I signed some guys that'll help Goff make plays(Davis/Reynolds). Reynolds he's already familiar with, which helps sometimes in a new offense. Trask can get sometime behind Goff to learn/develop, maybe works out, likely a career backup but drafting him doesn't change the narrative of drafting a franchise QB early if you have to or are presented with the option.

* Can't fix everything, Have to wait for some money to free up and clear contracts. My biggest miss is adding a stud at OLB/EDGE. CB Depth, a real franchise QB of the future. Maybe don't have a true #1 WR or very good depth.

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Personally, I'm not a big fan of this overall. What seems to be the case to me is that the team is willing to use a 3-4 because of the pieces that are on the roster and the impact that it would have in moving off of them. My understanding is that the preferred scheme is an attacking 4-3 (which really will be more of a 4-2-5). As some of the contracts start to more team friendly in cap space/dead cap, we'll start to see them shift over to that. 

I like Najee as a prospect but I really don't think we need to be spending our 1st overall pick on a RB. Time and again we have seen team's find guys in a variety of the rounds of the draft and even undrafted. "Goff was at his best when Todd Gurley was running wild for the Rams"... yes, very true. He also had a stout defense in place. We need a lot more than just a RB to make this team competitive. If we flash forward to 2 years from now, Goff has played to his prior level and Holmes has built up the team where we're just a stud RB away from being a playoff contender, I totally get it. We're far, far from that position and we just spent a 2nd rounder on Swift. We have Kerryon on the roster, who has looked good but struggled with health. I'm good with adding another guy in the draft but not with our 1st rounder. 

If you aren't convinced that Trask can develop and could be our QBOTF, I wouldn't bother wasting a draft pick on him. We have Goff, we have Chase and we have Blough. If all three of those guys are inept, there's always next year's draft. This is a long term tear down and rebuild. Just because you think he can develop doesn't mean that he will... but why waste a pick on someone that you don't think can potentially start in the league?

I used to be open to Reynolds but our new Lions fans/Rams aficionado's have turned me off of the idea. Goff might be familiar with him but he also didn't really target him. Chargers WR Mike Williams could be a cap casualty (2022 FA, $15M cap hit in 2021 with $0 dead cap). He's a guy that would be familiar with Lynn's offense. He might be a better fit than someone like Reynolds. 

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I just had a pretty similar first-pick  mock

 

 

Round 1 Pick 13 (LAC): JaMarr Chase, WR, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9: Najee Harris, RB, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 25 (LAR): Azeez Ojulari, DE/OLB, Georgia (A)
Round 3 Pick 8: Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 3 Pick 13 (LAC): Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 24: Baron Browning, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 37 (LAR): Phidarian Mathis, DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 39 (LAR): Chatarius Atwell, WR, Louisville (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7: Alec Lindstrom, C/OG, Boston College (A+)
Round 5 Pick 25 (CLE): Richie Grant, FS/SS, UCF (A)
Round 6 Pick 23 (MIA): Ian Book, QB, Notre Dame (A+)

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1 hour ago, Karnage84 said:

Personally, I'm not a big fan of this overall. What seems to be the case to me is that the team is willing to use a 3-4 because of the pieces that are on the roster and the impact that it would have in moving off of them. My understanding is that the preferred scheme is an attacking 4-3 (which really will be more of a 4-2-5). As some of the contracts start to more team friendly in cap space/dead cap, we'll start to see them shift over to that. 

I like Najee as a prospect but I really don't think we need to be spending our 1st overall pick on a RB. Time and again we have seen team's find guys in a variety of the rounds of the draft and even undrafted. "Goff was at his best when Todd Gurley was running wild for the Rams"... yes, very true. He also had a stout defense in place. We need a lot more than just a RB to make this team competitive. If we flash forward to 2 years from now, Goff has played to his prior level and Holmes has built up the team where we're just a stud RB away from being a playoff contender, I totally get it. We're far, far from that position and we just spent a 2nd rounder on Swift. We have Kerryon on the roster, who has looked good but struggled with health. I'm good with adding another guy in the draft but not with our 1st rounder. 

If you aren't convinced that Trask can develop and could be our QBOTF, I wouldn't bother wasting a draft pick on him. We have Goff, we have Chase and we have Blough. If all three of those guys are inept, there's always next year's draft. This is a long term tear down and rebuild. Just because you think he can develop doesn't mean that he will... but why waste a pick on someone that you don't think can potentially start in the league?

I used to be open to Reynolds but our new Lions fans/Rams aficionado's have turned me off of the idea. Goff might be familiar with him but he also didn't really target him. Chargers WR Mike Williams could be a cap casualty (2022 FA, $15M cap hit in 2021 with $0 dead cap). He's a guy that would be familiar with Lynn's offense. He might be a better fit than someone like Reynolds. 

 

Well... Idk, I've been around football a lot an attacking 4-3 vs base 4-3 has to do with the front 7's individual responsibility more than alignments. Front seven read and react more in a base. Attacking 4-3 you'll have the front 7 filling gaps. You'll want heavy LB's in a attacking set that can shed blocks and fill gaps against linemen. A 4-2-5 is more of a subpack at the NFL level more than a base defense. Teams usually are rolling in different "type" of DB's depending on down, and personnel. (Heavy S, Coverage S, CB's.) Seems to be more of a coverage package...

At like the highschool level, the 4-2-5 is used but like, (Back in my day) they had a single saftey deep and two up in the box. So, basically it was a small teams heavy run defense, lol, Which hey it was highschool! Linemen barely breaking 200lbs. You know... lol.

There's other little nuisances depending on coach of how you like you're CB's to tackle in run support, How well the right end holds up on the run. But literally the playbooks themselves are basically the same. 

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1 hour ago, Miblue said:

I just had a pretty similar first-pick  mock

 

 

Round 1 Pick 13 (LAC): JaMarr Chase, WR, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9: Najee Harris, RB, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 25 (LAR): Azeez Ojulari, DE/OLB, Georgia (A)
Round 3 Pick 8: Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 3 Pick 13 (LAC): Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 24: Baron Browning, ILB/OLB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 37 (LAR): Phidarian Mathis, DT, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 39 (LAR): Chatarius Atwell, WR, Louisville (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7: Alec Lindstrom, C/OG, Boston College (A+)
Round 5 Pick 25 (CLE): Richie Grant, FS/SS, UCF (A)
Round 6 Pick 23 (MIA): Ian Book, QB, Notre Dame (A+)

Are you shooting off the hip or basing it off one of the mock draft simulators?

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instead of harris id be open to double down on o line or go pass rush. but im guessing you put into consideration the new staff wants to run the ball..or should I say WILL run the ball in the offense. i like michael carter too. but i feel a 4-5 rd guy can do similar things but idk..I jusst dont trust Alabama

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4 hours ago, NFL_Fan said:

what do you guys think about Brian Hill? on falcons last year FA this year. 

Idk if he's a terrible option. He'll certainly be on the cheaper side. I just want a physical runner to foil Swift well. Harris provided that and then some. You got what I was trying to do. An injury could happen and the run game isn't likely to take a huge hit in this situation.

Between the RB's on the team, maybe something like 20 some rushing TDs & 20 some passing TD could happen. Thought that might give a weaker defense/WR group a shot.

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1 minute ago, SimbaWho said:

Idk if he's a terrible option. He'll certainly be on the cheaper side. I just want a physical runner to foil Swift well. Harris provided that and then some. You got what I was trying to do. An injury could happen and the run game isn't likely to take a huge hit in this situation.

Between the RB's on the team, maybe something like 20 some rushing TDs & 20 some passing TD could happen. Thought that might give a weaker defense/WR group a shot.

While I don't love Najee or really any RB in the first (especially with all of our needs), he isn't a one trick pony as he does have good hands. You could arguably play Swift and Harris at the same time, flexing Swift into the slot. 

 

Dammit. You might be winning me over on this one. 

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