Sllim Pickens Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Obviously draft picks would have to be involved but... Philadelphia receives: Collin Sexton, Malik Beasley, Ricky Rubio Cleveland receives: Anthony Edwards, Patrick Beverly Minnesota receives: Ben Simmons, Seth Curry If I am Philly, I value Edwards significantly more than Sexton based on the contract and upside. No way I send Simmons and Curry, their 3rd/4th best scorer as well in a deal and get just that return. Throw in all the picks you want but unless one of them is a 1st next year from Cleveland, they don't mean much. MN may not be a title contender but they will make the playoffs with KAT and Ben on the court together. Cleveland is improving and I wouldn't want much else form them after next year either and they likely won't give that much up. Overall this feels like a huge win for Minny and Cleveland, huge loss for Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said: If I am Philly, I value Edwards significantly more than Sexton based on the contract and upside. No way I send Simmons and Curry, their 3rd/4th best scorer as well in a deal and get just that return. Throw in all the picks you want but unless one of them is a 1st next year from Cleveland, they don't mean much. MN may not be a title contender but they will make the playoffs with KAT and Ben on the court together. Cleveland is improving and I wouldn't want much else form them after next year either and they likely won't give that much up. Overall this feels like a huge win for Minny and Cleveland, huge loss for Philly. Philadelphia has been very public about not being interested in the Timberwolves trade assets which is why they're seeking a third team. Which I'd assume means that they don't particularly like Anthony Edwards very much considering he's only 20 years old, was literally the worst defensive players in the league, and also one of the most inconsistent players in the league as well. Philadelphia has also made it clear that if they're trading Ben they want someone that fits in Embiid's timeline and can help them win now. Sexton is coming off of a 24 ppg season and has improved every year in the league. Beasley missed a good chunk of last season but he averaged 20 ppg and made 3.5 3's per game at a 40% clip. That's why I also included Curry in the deal because would there be a ton of minutes for him with Sexton/Beasley coming in especially considering they also have Maxey who's also a smaller guard, Danny Green, and Thybulle. For the 76ers this move would also keep their roster flexibility pretty open. Danny Green's contract isn't guaranteed in 2022-2023, Rubio's on an expiring, and Sexton is a RFA next summer. So they could also potentially pursue a player like Lavine or Beal via S&T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amac Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) a Edited August 29, 2021 by amac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Looking at all of the potential Simmons trade destinations and man it's going to be hard to move him and get fair value at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) Thunder receive: Kevin Love, Tyrese Maxey, draft compensation Cavaliers receive: Ben Simmons 76ers receive: Collin Sexton, Ty Jerome, Ricky Rubio Would probably want to move Allen sooner rather than later but I think Lauri/Mobley are two bigs that can space the floor well enough to fit with Ben. Garland - Okoro - Simmons - Markkanen - Mobley Edited September 4, 2021 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Thunder receive: Kevin Love, Tyrese Maxey, draft compensation Cavaliers receive: Ben Simmons 76ers receive: Collin Sexton, Ty Jerome, Ricky Rubio Would probably want to move Allen sooner rather than later but I think Lauri/Mobley are two bigs that can space the floor well enough to fit with Ben. Garland - Okoro - Simmons - Markkanen - Mobley So Cavs dump Kevin Love AND get Ben Simmons. That isn't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, CWood21 said: So Cavs dump Kevin Love AND get Ben Simmons. That isn't happening. Philly's return is going to be doo doo sir, they played it as poorly as humanly possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Who should the Mavs target with their $10.6 million TPE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, the lone star said: Who should the Mavs target with their $10.6 million TPE? Terrence Ross or Thaddeus Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 45 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Terrence Ross or Thaddeus Young neither guy fits under the TPE the Mavs have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Just now, the lone star said: neither guy fits under the TPE the Mavs have. You can't trade a low salary player while using the TPE to match their salary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 8 hours ago, NYRaider said: You can't trade a low salary player while using the TPE to match their salary? For most teams the answer will be no because they're over the cap. Since the Mavs are over the cap, any incoming salary would have to fully fit under the full value of the TPE. Now, I think they could use the TPE on someone like Jeremy Lamb, Kyle Anderson, or Montrezl Harrell, hold them for a little while and then and then flip them for Ross or Thad Young in a separate trade. So maybe they should target Lamb, Harrell, or SlowMo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 1:58 PM, NYRaider said: You can't trade a low salary player while using the TPE to match their salary? You're allowed to go 100k over the TPE to acquire a player. So if you have a $5M TPE, you can acquire a player who makes a maximum of $5.1M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 16 hours ago, CWood21 said: You're allowed to go 100k over the TPE to acquire a player. So if you have a $5M TPE, you can acquire a player who makes a maximum of $5.1M. https://cbabreakdown.com/salary-cap-exceptions Just providing a link to back you up on it. I know you're right, but just want to help others find the info themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 For the 76ers the best possible packages right now is probably... Sacramento: Harrison Barnes, Marvin Bagley, Davion Mitchell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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