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On 9/12/2021 at 10:26 AM, Matts4313 said:

So a few of you in the car thread know I am both car and boat shopping. Something unique just popped up in my search for getting all the discounts in the world. Have any of you used a virtual mail service for any reason? I am looking at one that gives me an address in Texas (I live here), but also Florida and S. Dakota. I think I can use this address to get the "South East" specific coupons from automakers. 

Has anyone done this? I am looking into the service mail service regardless, but if I can get a $3k bonus coupon form Jeep because my virtual address is in Florida, I am going to do it!

that sounds like a scam

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1 hour ago, theJ said:

that sounds like a scam

there are lots of mail forwarding services these days for all of the people who live in their RVs and travel around. Nevada is one, South Dakota another and there are several other states that are happy to have "virtual" residents and go a long way to make it easy on them. Its the residential version of :

"Why do some many companies establish themselves as Delaware Corporations ? "

So setting up virtual residency in another state isn't difficult. For some, you do have to show that you spent (1) month there every 13 months- and many of the RV parks generate a receipt that shows move- in and move-out dates to satisfy the govt' entities. Some do it for tax purposes, some for residency and some just need a place to grab their mail every now and again.

Its possible that there are scammers taking advantage of the situation, but thousands of people do it every year

https://www.livesmallridefree.com/blog/change-your-domicile-to-nevada-step-by-step-guide

 

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On 9/12/2021 at 8:26 AM, Matts4313 said:

So a few of you in the car thread know I am both car and boat shopping. Something unique just popped up in my search for getting all the discounts in the world. Have any of you used a virtual mail service for any reason? I am looking at one that gives me an address in Texas (I live here), but also Florida and S. Dakota. I think I can use this address to get the "South East" specific coupons from automakers. 

Has anyone done this? I am looking into the service mail service regardless, but if I can get a $3k bonus coupon form Jeep because my virtual address is in Florida, I am going to do it!

I don't really understand how "coupons" like this affect the price of the vehicle in this context.  Just take the "$3k bonus coupon" or whatever, to your local dealership and tell them to match it or **** off.  If they don't, go use that discount where it is.  Drive the car home.

Or alternatively in this instance...just tell the guy you'll buy the vehicle in Florida at the coupon price even though you don't have the citizenship, and just do it.  Unless Florida has some sort of insane "vehicle sales subsidy" for state residents like a bunch of dirty socialists that i don't know about.

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7 hours ago, Tugboat said:

I don't really understand how "coupons" like this affect the price of the vehicle in this context.  Just take the "$3k bonus coupon" or whatever, to your local dealership and tell them to match it or **** off.  If they don't, go use that discount where it is.  Drive the car home.

Or alternatively in this instance...just tell the guy you'll buy the vehicle in Florida at the coupon price even though you don't have the citizenship, and just do it.  Unless Florida has some sort of insane "vehicle sales subsidy" for state residents like a bunch of dirty socialists that i don't know about.

The coupon is targeted discounts from the car manufacture based on which city you live in. To use the coupon you have to have an address in that city, but then the dealership gets $X amount to take off your purchase. 

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do y'all have Freemen On The Land nutters over in yankeeland perchance? growing movement here, all bonkers, especially prevalent in the state of queensland for some reason: (from Bradley v The Crown [2020] QCA 252):

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SOFRONOFF P: The applicant was charged with one count of unlicensed driving. He was convicted and fined $150 with no conviction recorded. He applied to the magistrate to dismiss the charge on the ground that for reasons that are not clear a police officer had no power to charge him or to commence the proceedings in question. The argument was obvious nonsense and the magistrate rightly rejected it. After hearing the evidence led by the prosecution, the magistrate found the applicant guilty as charged.

Not satisfied with this outcome, the applicant appealed to the District Court and argued that he was something which he called a citizen sovereign and that the laws of Queensland did not apply to him. If that was true, then it would be hard to understand why the applicant was agitating his complaints before this court, which is one that has been established under the laws that he says do not apply to him. This paradox did not trouble the applicant and he has now applied for leave to appeal against Judge Moynihan QC’s order dismissing his appeal. That the applicant is merely persisting in putting forward a jumble of gobbledygook to support his application in this court can be seen at once if one reads only the two opening sentences of his purported outline of argument:

“My BRADLEY person (conjoined with the BRADLEY ‘spiritual’ family body-politic) is my own “body politic” by succession, at Law. It is my natural body incorporated at the supreme Christian Law and is my own jurisdiction.”

This application is an abuse of the court’s process and should be dismissed.

MULLINS JA: I agree.

BODDICE J: I agree.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Shady Slim said:

do y'all have Freemen On The Land nutters over in yankeeland perchance? growing movement here, all bonkers, especially prevalent in the state of queensland for some reason: (from Bradley v The Crown [2020] QCA 252):

 

Yup. We have them. And they’re just as stupid.

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11 hours ago, D82 said:

Yup. We have them. And they’re just as stupid.

the king of them here is a bloke by the name of Wayne Glew, who's in more than $300,000 debt to the government over a dispute stemming from him refusing to pay council rates (local governments are unconstitutional owing to the magna carta)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-19/geraldton-city-seizes-wayne-glew-land-for-non-payment-of-rates/10619944

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13 hours ago, Shady Slim said:

do y'all have Freemen On The Land nutters over in yankeeland perchance? 

 

Sovereign Citizens.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/sovereign-citizens-movement

There have been a handful of notable cases/incidents related to the ideology here. Definitely an uptick in the last decade.

 

 

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