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Should Mike McCarthy be held responsible for the annual cycle of injuries that routinely debilitate Packer teams?

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Should Mike McCarthy be held responsible for the annual cycle of injuries that routinely debilitate Packer teams?   

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  1. 1. Should Mike McCarthy be held responsible for the annual cycle of injuries that routinely debilitate Packer teams?

    • Yes, absolutely. His staff is paid to prepare the players for a 16 game schedule.
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    • No. There are too many variables at play.
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    • Tough to say either way
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incognito_man

incognito_man

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no.

other teams get just as injured if not more every year. It's just that you don't hear about them because (1) most  fans don't really follow closely what goes around the league and (2) those teams generally have extremely little success and aren't in the news.

It's an anomaly when a team so injured is still succeeding, if anything.

Back when mangameslost was free (and this question comes up every year) it was shown that sometimes GB is in the best shape, sometimes near the worst, and often in the middle.

Sucks when they stack in a position group, that's a huge force multiplier that stands out even more then too.

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packerjmf

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He shouldn't be held responsible for the injuries themselves, but he also shouldn't get a pass on any potential lack of success that results from all of our injuries. That being said, this team has been fairly competitive over his tenure. Only way you can fire him is if you feel like you have a better alternative you can turn to to get the most out of your team (i.e. Denver scrapping Fox for Kubiak despite Fox's record there).

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incognito_man

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2 minutes ago, Pugger said:

Perhaps our training staff isn't up to snuff?   You can't prevent injuries like broken bones and concussions but what about soft tissue injuries like hamstrings?

there's only one guy with a hamstring injury on the team, and he got that violently doing the splits.

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TransientTexan

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While it's true that no team is immune from injuries, I do think there are some teams that are more prone than others. I've been tracking the AGL (Adjusted games lost) metric put out by Football Outsiders. Taken cumulatively, even with a 7-year sample size (2010-2016) there is a pretty big spread. The worst team (NYG at 691.9) has over twice as many AGL as the best (PHI at 337.9). That works out to about 3 additional players missing per each of the 112 games over the 7 year timeframe. Maybe it takes more years for everything to trend towards the middle and reduce the spread, but it obviously hasn't happened yet. Evidently, sizeable differences in injury luck/performance can exist, even over a 7-year span. Even averaging the AGL rankings (instead of the absolute AGL number) gives you a fairly big spread with PHI averaging about 9th-place over the whole sample and IND averaging 27th-place. 

For those that are wondering, GB comes in 26th in AGL with 526.2, and I'm sure that rank isn't going to change much after all the injuries this year. Their average rank in AGL is about 19th, which puts them #25 in that regard. GB has had fairly good luck in recent years, peaking at #3 in AGL in 2014 when they were inches from a SB trip. Then dropped to #9 in 2015 and #15 in 2016. Those relatively good showings have helped a little to balance the awful luck they had from 2010-2013. However, It is somewhat worrying that 2017 seems to be lining us up for our 3rd consecutive drop in AGL ranking and back towards the bottom of the league where they used to find themselves regularly. 

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