NYRaider Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Just now, goldfishwars said: DI Jaylen Twyman — 6’1”, 301 5.51s 40-yard dash (zero percentile) 8’8” broad (2nd percentile) 8.00s 3C (1st percentile) Yeah, a horrible day for both guys. IIRC at least Twyman had somewhat of an excuse as he sat out in 2020. And his 2019 production was very good with 12.5 TFL and 10.5 sacks, plus at the DT spot he doesn't have to be the greatest athlete ever to be effective, but yeah still a horrible day. Paris Ford though with a 4.90 forty at safety is absolutely horrible, lol. https://www.cardiachill.com/2021/3/18/22336994/jaylen-twyman-pitt-pro-day-aaron-donald-40-bench-press-reps-lineman-2021-nfl-draft-panthers-football Also LOL at this article hyping up Twyman's pro day performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringinDaPain Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, goldfishwars said: Man those Pittsburgh pro day numbers are unreal, I don't think Twyman or Ford are draftable now. Some team will still gamble on Twyman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Yeah, a horrible day for both guys. IIRC at least Twyman had somewhat of an excuse as he sat out in 2020. And his 2019 production was very good with 12.5 TFL and 10.5 sacks, plus at the DT spot he doesn't have to be the greatest athlete ever to be effective, but yeah still a horrible day. Paris Ford though with a 4.90 forty at safety is absolutely horrible, lol. https://www.cardiachill.com/2021/3/18/22336994/jaylen-twyman-pitt-pro-day-aaron-donald-40-bench-press-reps-lineman-2021-nfl-draft-panthers-football Also LOL at this article hyping up Twyman's pro day performance. It’s from a Pitt fan site. These are written all the time on these SB Nation fan sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinebackerGod Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Why would those idiots test if they knew this is what they were capable of? ...unless they tanked on purpose so they could sign as UDFAs with the Browns 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 6 hours ago, NYRaider said: Josh Imatorbhebhe, WR, Illinois • Mesurables: 6'1" 218, 32 3/8" arms, 9 1/4" hands • 40 time: 4.48 (64th percentile) • Vertical leap: 46.5" (100th percentile) • Broad jump: 11'02" (99th percentile) • 20 yard shuttle: 4.38s (16th percentile) • 3-Cone Drill: 7.10s (22nd percentile) • Bench reps: 24 (98th percentile) @jrry32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just a little digging on safeties and their 40 times. Granted not a ton of ran slow 4.7 40s and succeeded but there are some. Tony Jefferson was a beast tackling multiple years and Kennedy was a big time hit man back and the day that could bring it. Kenoy Kennedy 4.71 Jahmile Addae 4.74 Tony Jefferson 4.75 Dominique Barber 4.70 And these guys did not do great but all have had good careers if not great with Kam and Dawkins. John Johnson just signed a new contract and is one of the best coverage safeties in the league arguably, signed a 3 year $33 mil contract with the Browns. Daniel Sorensen 4.67 Kam Chancellor 4.62 Kean Neal 4.62 Jalen Mills 4.62 John Johnson 4.61 Brian Dawkins 4.63 And these guys all ran great 40 times and none were great players or even players of note. And a few were huge safeties like Mays and Sands much less TJ Green. Taylor Mays 4.31 Chris Clemons 4.33 TJ Green 4.34 Josh Barrett 4.36 Daniel Bullocks 4.40 Obi Melifonwu 4.40 Tyrell Johnson 4.41 Dustin Fox 4.43 Ko Simpson 4.45 Markelle Martin 4.47 Major Wright 4.44 Godwin Igwebuike 4.44 Bacarri Rambo 4.56 Josh Gattis 4.55 Matt Ware 4.54 Robert Sands 4.53 Jonathan Dowling 4.52 Granted did any of these guys live during a international pandemic? No. So there is that with some of the times seeing potentially. Are guys like LeCounte and Ford out of the NFL with these times, I doubt it but will see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Why does a pandemic make some guys run slower and others run in the 4.2s? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJM217 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, goldfishwars said: Why does a pandemic make some guys run slower and others run in the 4.2s? Bro I think about this all the time. After the off season is over some one needs to do a study to see if the average 40 time was faster this year compared to other years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullback Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) I will never understand, even though I appreciate being an ultimate competitor, how some of these guys elect to run the 40 only to bomb - especially if their tape tells otherwise. All these athletes ran the 40 more than a hundred times in their career. Surely all of them work on it specifically to optimize their time for the predraft process. Yet often players who were no-brainers to be selected at least late in the draft, vault themselves into UDFA territory. Safe mid round prospects fall into the late rounds. If I'm a DB with good tape I won't run the 40 if I know I'm in 4.6 territory at best. Same goes for any other drill, being explosive players on tape bombing their jumps, or twitchy players doing poor in agility drills. Do the positional drills all you want, but don't kill your stock with a cold hard numbers that ultimately doesn't mean much on Sundays. Edited March 22, 2021 by Fullback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I'm soooo disappointed in Ford's times, but the tape is there. He can't go undrafted. If you have an extra 6th or 7th rounder to play with, I don't see why you wouldn't take the shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 5 hours ago, goldfishwars said: Why does a pandemic make some guys run slower and others run in the 4.2s? Simple, some were vaccinated and some weren't 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinebackerGod Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 The times of Paris Ford are very sad. He doesn't even look a little slow on tape. I thought he would hit like the 4.45 range based on his movement skills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Kyle Pitts at 4.46 during training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Jim Nagy on Twitter: "Official results on juniors @FSUFootball pro-day: CB Asante Samuel Jr HT 5101 WT 180 Hand 8 7/8 Arm 30 1/8 Wing 72 1/4 40-yd 4.45/4.52 VJ 35.0 BJ 10-4 SS 4.13 3C 6.95 BP 12x EDGE Josh Kaindoh 6056 260 9 1/2 34 1/2 81 7/8 4.70/4.76 👀 VJ 36.5 BJ 10-5 👀 SS 4.38 3C 7.21 BP 21x" / Twitter Jim Nagy on Twitter: "Official results @FSUFootball pro-day: EDGE Janarius Robinson HT 6053 Wt 263 Hand 10 7/8 Arm 35 1/4 Wing 86 1/4 👀 40-yd 4.78/4.72 VJ 34.0 BJ 10-1 SS 4.40 3C 7.31 BP 25x 👀 DT Marvin Wilson 6037 303 9 3/4 33 3/8 81 1/8👀 5.12/5.14 25.5 8-11 4.91 7.64 23x https://t.co/ZMwDmr4t4J" / Twitter Jim Nagy on Twitter: "NFL trend moving more toward position-less hybrid defenders and @FSUFootball Hamsah Nasirildeen fits that mold. Didn’t run 40-yd or BJ due to hamstring injury during training. NFL scout says he gutted thru” today’s workout. 6032 215 9 3/4 34 1/2 81 7/8👀 32.0 4.31 7.05 17 reps https://t.co/pZaYSJ5wXy" / Twitter Edited March 22, 2021 by SBLIII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, SBLIII said: Jim Nagy on Twitter: "Official results on juniors @FSUFootball pro-day: CB Asante Samuel Jr HT 5101 WT 180 Hand 8 7/8 Arm 30 1/8 Wing 72 1/4 40-yd 4.45/4.52 VJ 35.0 BJ 10-4 SS 4.13 3C 6.95 BP 12x EDGE Josh Kaindoh 6056 260 9 1/2 34 1/2 81 7/8 4.70/4.76 👀 VJ 36.5 BJ 10-5 👀 SS 4.38 3C 7.21 BP 21x" / Twitter Incredible athleticism. Asante Samuel is locked into the top 40. I think he’s got a real shot at round 1 if teams were already in love. Edited March 22, 2021 by MD4L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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