Scoundrel 10,746 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: So Notre Dame is timing guys based off of 35 yards instead of 40 then? It was at Exos where Bateman and Tylan Wallace ran 4.39 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE DUKE 2,598 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I don't believe a single one of these times. Not a single damn one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scoundrel 10,746 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Someone in the forum I believe has him as INT#1 so here you go. DL Jonathan Marshall Height: 6-3 Weight: 310 pounds Bench reps (225 pounds): 36 Vertical jump: 32 inches Broad jump: 9-6 40-yard dash: 4.75-4.90 seconds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scoundrel 10,746 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 QB Feleipe Franks Height: 6-6 1/2 Weight: 234 pounds Bench reps (225 pounds): N/A Vertical jump: 32 1/2 inches Broad jump: 9-9 40-yard dash: 4.55-4.65 seconds Short shuttle: 4.35 seconds 3-Cone drill: 7.22 seconds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzy 1,310 Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 44 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Someone in the forum I believe has him as INT#1 so here you go. DL Jonathan Marshall Height: 6-3 Weight: 310 pounds Bench reps (225 pounds): 36 Vertical jump: 32 inches Broad jump: 9-6 40-yard dash: 4.75-4.90 seconds Who the hell is Jonathan Marshall? Kind of like saying Armon Watts is a big time DT prospect out of Arkansas and fact is on the Vikings in two seasons he is absolutely not. Oh and he has one of the fastest times if not the fastest 40 time for any DT 310+ pounds in history at 4.75. Right. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scoundrel 10,746 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 16 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Who the hell is Jonathan Marshall? Kind of like saying Armon Watts is a big time DT prospect out of Arkansas and fact is on the Vikings in two seasons he is absolutely not. Oh and he has one of the fastest times if not the fastest 40 time for any DT 310+ pounds in history at 4.75. Right. Don’t shoot the messenger. I looked around it was @BrownLeader who had him first at one point (now has him 4th) and now 72nd overall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrownLeader 259 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, Ozzy said: Who the hell is Jonathan Marshall? Kind of like saying Armon Watts is a big time DT prospect out of Arkansas and fact is on the Vikings in two seasons he is absolutely not. Oh and he has one of the fastest times if not the fastest 40 time for any DT 310+ pounds in history at 4.75. Right. Power and first step quickness are easy bankable traits. Heavier, quicker and much stronger than Watts fwiw. I don't buy that time either but even under 5.0 is good for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Forge 20,162 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 5 hours ago, Scoundrel said: QB Feleipe Franks Height: 6-6 1/2 Weight: 234 pounds Bench reps (225 pounds): N/A Vertical jump: 32 1/2 inches Broad jump: 9-9 40-yard dash: 4.55-4.65 seconds Short shuttle: 4.35 seconds 3-Cone drill: 7.22 seconds Still couldn't hit water if throwing a ball into the ocean 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldfishwars 3,150 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, Forge said: Still couldn't hit water if throwing a ball into the ocean More like No Franks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzy 1,310 Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 7 hours ago, BrownLeader said: Power and first step quickness are easy bankable traits. Heavier, quicker and much stronger than Watts fwiw. I don't buy that time either but even under 5.0 is good for him. When watching Arkansas over the last 20 years or so, the only DTs of note to come out of Arkansas in my book have been Agim and Philon and both were more 3/4 pass rushing DE prospects who could kick inside if need be and had good athletic upside. Marshall has never stood out much to me when I watched them play. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WPS 2 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 10 hours ago, Forge said: Still couldn't hit water if throwing a ball into the ocean He did complete 69% of his passes this past year. Beautiful deep ball. Pocket presence is awful though, just think it's funny he had a better reported 40 time than Rakeem Boyd. These stats are going to be more inaccurate this year than ever. Marshall was very good at blowing up short-yardage obvious rushing plays on 3rd or 4th and 1 and he's extremely strong but he was a one-year wonder who didn't do much under the previous staff at Arkansas. https://www.arkansasfight.com/2020/10/5/21502886/jonathan-marshall-is-a-wrecking-ball Edited March 11 by WPS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Forge 20,162 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, WPS said: He did complete 69% of his passes this past year. Beautiful deep ball. Pocket presence is awful though, just think it's funny he had a better reported 40 time than Rakeem Boyd. These stats are going to be more inaccurate this year than ever. Honestly, when he's on...you see some promising things. He's jsut so inconsistently "on". I'd take a round 7 type flier on him, which is saying something for me (I give a lot of UDFA grades to QBs) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrry32 10,086 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 7 minutes ago, Forge said: Honestly, when he's on...you see some promising things. He's jsut so inconsistently "on". I'd take a round 7 type flier on him, which is saying something for me (I give a lot of UDFA grades to QBs) I don't see accuracy as the issue. He is a slow processor who doesn't see the field well or throw with anticipation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrry32 10,086 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 12 minutes ago, WPS said: He did complete 69% of his passes this past year. Beautiful deep ball. Pocket presence is awful though, just think it's funny he had a better reported 40 time than Rakeem Boyd. These stats are going to be more inaccurate this year than ever. Marshall was very good at blowing up short-yardage obvious rushing plays on 3rd or 4th and 1 and he's extremely strong but he was a one-year wonder who didn't do much under the previous staff at Arkansas. https://www.arkansasfight.com/2020/10/5/21502886/jonathan-marshall-is-a-wrecking-ball I could see Franks running a 4.6 40. He's not sudden or quick, but when he gets up to speed, he can move. He's a long strider (and a bit of an awkward-looking runner). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Forge 20,162 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, jrry32 said: I don't see accuracy as the issue. He is a slow processor who doesn't see the field well or throw with anticipation. I think his ball placement when his guys aren't wide open (and sometimes when they are) is problematic. I'll watch more, but I didn't see that as a plus category Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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