Sugashane Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, dll2000 said: Bears potential 2021 Offensive SL: ARob or Golladay Leno Daniels Mustipher Whitehair Ifedi or Bars Kmet Mooney Miller/Ridley/Rookie R. Wilson Montgomery Bears likely need to cut Graham in cost saving move if they bring in Wilson. An upgrade over Leno to even an average player with above group I think would be key . They have to stay really healthy too. You instantly get a lot worse with any missed time to injury to QB1, W1, or W2. Bears without Robinson lack a primary WR. Bears without Mooney lack any explosion and separation. Bears without Wilson suck at QB (as it stands). I wouldnt even be opposed to moving Ifedi to RT and delegating another OL to a blocking TE to help Leno or a cheap replacement. Hell put Bars in that role, hes a fairly athletic OL and better than Coward. Kmet clearly would be the starter but if we need to play bully ball then he can kick out wide while the big guy helps the OT. Could help a lot when we face a great EDGE too. Dont even play around, move the big boy in motion to whatever side that EDGE is on. We had Leno and Massie one on one with the best EDGE too much the last 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, dll2000 said: For Bears to be a SB team even with Wilson they need to: 1) Get better at LT 2) Stay healthy at key positions mainly QB, WR and CB. 3) Retain Fuller and probably Hicks. 4) Get peak and impactful play from Mack, Jackson, and Quinn. 5) Other top teams need injuries and/or discord to pave way. 6) Refs have to call offensive holding and allow hard hits without penalty as Bears are still built through defense. Well for anyone to win the SB most of those things need to happen. Not many teams have the Bucs' talent outside or win with the back up like PHI did. Those are abnormalities. GB lost their LT and it completely derailed them, and their offense is way more talented than anything the Bears have. We would essentially be running a team much like the Seahawks did in their deep runs and win and what NYG did when they made their wins. Realistically we're looking at competing with anyone in the playoffs, but we aren't remotely going to be favorites even with Wilson. Still a massive upgrade from what the Bears have been since the 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 Just now, Sugashane said: I wouldnt even be opposed to moving Ifedi to RT and delegating another OL to a blocking TE to help Leno or a cheap replacement. Hell put Bars in that role, hes a fairly athletic OL and better than Coward. Kmet clearly would be the starter but if we need to play bully ball then he can kick out wide while the big guy helps the OT. Could help a lot when we face a great EDGE too. Dont even play around, move the big boy in motion to whatever side that EDGE is on. We had Leno and Massie one on one with the best EDGE too much the last 2 years. The extra OL doesn't work often except inside the 10. Remember when you sub in NFL defense is allowed to sub too to match up. Why GB runs offense it does. It can be power or finesse with same line up and keep your guys on field and getting tired. Every college and NFL team wants to sub out D linemen regularly to keep them fresh and pursuing sideline to sideline. Started in early 90s. Then when you try to sub they quick snap it and get free 5 yards and often a free play. I don't get why Rodgers is only QB that does do that. Everyone should do it whenever they can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Sugashane said: Pssht. I'll cuck-block you and delete your comments. I've been trusted with a minor iota of power and will use it!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sugashane said: Well for anyone to win the SB most of those things need to happen. Not many teams have the Bucs' talent outside or win with the back up like PHI did. Those are abnormalities. GB lost their LT and it completely derailed them, and their offense is way more talented than anything the Bears have. We would essentially be running a team much like the Seahawks did in their deep runs and win and what NYG did when they made their wins. Realistically we're looking at competing with anyone in the playoffs, but we aren't remotely going to be favorites even with Wilson. Still a massive upgrade from what the Bears have been since the 80s. Yes everyone needs luck. But thinner you are, more luck you need. Bears are really thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 I don't think you guys want to watch me have sex and I for sure don't want to watch you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, dll2000 said: Bears potential 2021 Offensive SL: ARob or Golladay Leno Daniels Mustipher Whitehair Ifedi or Bars Kmet Mooney Miller/Ridley/Rookie R. Wilson Montgomery Bears likely need to cut Graham in cost saving move if they bring in Wilson. An upgrade over Leno to even an average player with above group I think would be key . They have to stay really healthy too. You instantly get a lot worse with any missed time to injury to QB1, W1, or W2. Bears without Robinson lack a primary WR. Bears without Mooney lack any explosion and separation. Bears without Wilson suck at QB (as it stands). Why on Earth would you move Whitehair away from LG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, G08 said: Why on Earth would you move Whitehair away from LG. Because Daniels always plays LG when he is healthy. But I don't have strong feelings on it. I will say Whitehair is far better at G than C and makes the OL much better playing G. Not sure what took Bears so long to realize that. Again I blame this on way they practice and how HC doesn't seem to pay attention to results of live reps. He (WH) should be an emergency C only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted March 10, 2021 Author Share Posted March 10, 2021 Cowboys going to town creating cap space. I can't believe I stressed about cap so many years. It really is mostly a myth. The future years means you can do whatever to create space whenever you really want to. I bet most Teams simply have an internal budget mandate they give their GM. Obviously you can't spend anything you want. You have to stay within team specific profit margins. There are limits, even for Cowboys who make a ton on side that they alone get to keep. They likely average it over 3 years probably and do what they want within those parameters. Sometimes it changes when an owner wants it to. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I feel like RW to the Bears is more likely than not at this point... Pace and Nagy are desperate, I don't think a rookie can save their jobs, and for all the Watson talk out there (or rumors that Bears would even prefer Watson, via age), it would also look incredibly damning to Ryan Pace if he has to give up significant resources to go out and get watson, after giving up resources to NOT draft him back when we picked Trubisky. Wilson should be cheaper than Watson (meaning we wouldn't be completely screwed on draft picks), doesn't constantly highlight Pace's failures in that QB draft like Watson would, and is as good (and has expressed interest in coming here). Pace and Nagy's desperation probably gets this done, so long as Seattle is remotely reasonable in their demands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Riley Rieff is on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, dll2000 said: Because Daniels always plays LG when he is healthy. But I don't have strong feelings on it. I will say Whitehair is far better at G than C and makes the OL much better playing G. Not sure what took Bears so long to realize that. Again I blame this on way they practice and how HC doesn't seem to pay attention to results of live reps. He (WH) should be an emergency C only. He did last season, but Whitehair was better at that position. Keep him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskieBear Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Ok, i thought about a wild trade today. something like this would never happen in the nfl, because i don't 3-team trades. i also don't know how this would affect cap space. THIS IS FOR FUN AND DISCUSSION Bears trade Arob and 2021 3rd round draft pick to NYJ for Darnold, 2021 2nd round pick and 2021 5th round pick Bears then trade Darnold, 2021 1st and 2nd round pick, and 2022 1st round pick to Seattle for Russell Wilson Seattle gets 2 firsts, a 2nd, and young QB to replace Wilson with and see what they have. NYJ get a #1 WR to pair with their new QB - and have the cap space to give him a new contract. Bears get Wilson and 2nd that can be used for a OT or WR, depending on FA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagabears Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Not the place or topic I know but can we try getting Soulman back? He really adds good content & perspective. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 12 hours ago, Ty21 said: ^^^ The first time I see you, this will be what happens. Cbears, it is premeditated. 12 hours ago, dll2000 said: I don't think you guys want to watch me have sex and I for sure don't want to watch you. Ah... I see you didnt say you didnt want to watch us watch you... Kinda creepy, guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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