Covid-19 News/Discussion

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

1 minute ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

You seemed to have misinterpreted what "personal" meant in this context. My personal opinion is just that and you won't change what my opinion is especially the way you stand on your soap box.

I wouldn’t expect you to let facts get in the way of your feelings.

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

And to be clear @BobbyPhil1781, no one is taking away their personal choice or making them do anything they don’t want to their bodies.

They can refuse and sit their happy arses at home all day.

[JonStark]

19 hours ago, Uncle Buck said:

What's wrong with having concerns about an experimental injection that was rushed through by drug companies who are now making BILLIONS and who have been given 100% immunity from any liability?

I know this has already been pushed back on, but this false narrative needs to end. Now.

The vaccine wasn't rushed no matter how much you want to use that as justification. It just wasn't. We have been studying both mRNA vaccines and coronaviruses for years (which is even furthered by the lab leak theory if you believe that to be true, which I do). We also allocated all of our resources to tackle this one major issue. That is why it was able to be created faster, not because people just carelessly cut corners to move it through production. 

Enough with the "the vaccine came out of no where" BS. 

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

@ramssuperbowl99 re: our discussion last week.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mississippi-nurse-said-she-quit-162040587.html

Im sure she’s not the first, nor will she be the last.  It’s absolutely wearing people down.

[BobbyPhil1781]

1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

I wouldn’t expect you to let facts get in the way of your feelings.

No, I just am choosing not to have a discussion with someone who's smugness is literally palpable. 

Edited August 15, 2021 by BobbyPhil1781

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

22 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

No, I just am choosing not to have a discussion with someone who's smugness is literally palpable. 

Lol and here you are…

[pwny]

2 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

I've been fully vaccinated since April and I think this is ridiculous. It's just a personal opinion. Fully vaccinated people are using their body to infect and kill others as well. Granted, it's a lower rate vs unvaccinated but it's still happening. 

Anyone that drives a car can kill someone when driving. We still require drivers licenses and for people to pass a skills test to be out on the road. We still require cars to be inspected for safety issues. We still arrest people for driving drunk. We still set speed limits, and traffic laws.

We can’t mitigate every single risk down to 0. But we can make rules against reckless behavior to mitigate them down to acceptable norms.

If you don’t want to take a skills test and get your car inspected, that’s your right. But you don’t get to drive it on public roads. Same thing here.

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

But yeah, it’s prolly a lot easier to pretend to take the high road than try to defend a opinion formed by feelings instead of facts.

I get it.

[pwny]

1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

Another example of why the “some people in the medical field” argument is dumb.

96% of physicians have been vaccinated.

*4 out of 5 dentists recommend Crest toothpaste* has been one of the most successful ad campaigns of all time, and that’s only 80%.

Makes you think.

[squire12]

5 minutes ago, pwny said:

Anyone that drives a car can kill someone when driving. We still require drivers licenses and for people to pass a skills test to be out on the road. We still require cars to be inspected for safety issues. We still arrest people for driving drunk. We still set speed limits, and traffic laws.

We can’t mitigate every single risk down to 0. But we can make rules against reckless behavior to mitigate them down to acceptable norms.

If you don’t want to take a skills test and get your car inspected, that’s your right. But you don’t get to drive it on public roads. Same thing here.

They drive there "Dumb and Dumber" moped across country, pissing on there travel partner

 

 

 

 

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

11 minutes ago, pwny said:

Anyone that drives a car can kill someone when driving. We still require drivers licenses and for people to pass a skills test to be out on the road. We still require cars to be inspected for safety issues. We still arrest people for driving drunk. We still set speed limits, and traffic laws.

We can’t mitigate every single risk down to 0. But we can make rules against reckless behavior to mitigate them down to acceptable norms.

If you don’t want to take a skills test and get your car inspected, that’s your right. But you don’t get to drive it on public roads. Same thing here.

Or another example is smoking.

You and I can smoke at home, in our cars (sans kids), outside in public, etc. 

We cannot smoke in movie theaters, restaurants, etc.

We also may be limited in employment options, pay more for healthcare, pay more for life insurance, etc. because of our choice.

[Xenos]

3 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

I've been fully vaccinated since April and I think this is ridiculous. It's just a personal opinion. Fully vaccinated people are using their body to infect and kill others as well. Granted, it's a lower rate vs unvaccinated but it's still happening. 

What other options would you prefer? We can use indoor masking again like the CDC recommends for example. But we cannot leave things the way they are with the honor system because it’s not working.

[Xenos]

2 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

You seemed to have misinterpreted what "personal" meant in this context. My personal opinion is just that and you won't change what my opinion is especially the way you stand on your soap box.

He’s standing on his soapbox because he has to deal with the direct impact of the unvaccinated’s bad decisions.

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

36 minutes ago, Xenos said:

What other options would you prefer? We can use indoor masking again like the CDC recommends for example. But we cannot leave things the way they are with the honor system because it’s not working.

The honor system doesn’t work with dishonest people.

[pwny]

On 8/14/2021 at 6:17 PM, Uncle Buck said:

On 8/14/2021 at 6:15 PM, pwny said:

Maybe he’d be kinder if you weren’t spreading lies that are killing people

Good grief.  Let's just watch the game. 

I want to go back to this because it just seems incredible when this is the response to this.

I just want you to consider for just a moment what is being said by the other side, Buck.

Just for a moment, consider the idea that you're wrong. Just entertain the idea for a moment. Consider that:

• COVID statistics are not being doctored
• the entire medical system, spanning millions of people across political and national lines, isn't participating in a massive conspiracy with zero whistleblowers
• the science around COVID, backed by the peer review process which we have used to verify every medical breakthrough literally ever, is sound and without bias
• the 96% of physicians who have gotten the shot represents a consensus among the most educated within the medical community
• the 207 million COVID cases world wide are not over reported.
• the 4.36 million reported COVID deaths are actually real
• the millions of those now suffering from long COVID are real, true cases
• Bill Gates would not go on a global platform to tell people he wants to murder millions of people, and then agree to post it to YouTube right before he planned to actually enact his super secret plan that you aren't supposed to be able to figure out
• 4chan, which prior to Q was best well known as a hotbed of internet trolls most well known for distributing child porn and harrassing/doxxing teenagers to the point that they committed suicide, is making up stuff
• maybe, just maybe, the idea that all humans carry to want to be special and a part of something bigger than us has allowed a large segment of the population to be duped by a lie that the entire world is out to get us and only they know the truth
• not getting vaccinated is allowing the virus to stick around, mutate, and become more and more deadly to our at risk populations

Just ponder that idea for just a moment. Consider that you're on the other side of this, and you're seeing someone continuing to disseminate lies and misinformation that is contributing to the ever growing death totals when simply doing the opposite and trusting the medical consensus would halt these deaths in their tracks, and by which the misinformation is literally getting people to murder members of their own family. 

Just ponder that for a bit, and ask yourself if "Good grief. Let's just watch the game" is even close to an appropriate response to someone being upset that you're doing all of this.

We can respectfully disagree when we're talking about best practices for policy enacting to curb the spread of this deadly disease. We can respectfully disagree when talking about how to get vaccines into specific communities or when to lift mask mandates, or which places are appropriate for *vaccine passports*. We can't respectfully disagree when one side is saying "please stop doing things that are killing hundreds of thousands of Americans and millions of people world-wide" and the other side is saying "those deaths aren't real, and this whole thing is a hoax that millions of people are in on."