vikesfan89 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Who’s arguing for a government mandate across the board? I think lots of people would like one if it was possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, vikesfan89 said: I never understood the push for everyone to get the vaccine asap even when they were already infected when there was a shortage There wasn’t one. We were advising people to wait 90 days from when you were diagnosed to get your first vaccine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, vikesfan89 said: I think lots of people would like one if it was possible Sure, perhaps, but no one is saying so. I think all of the mandates people are referring to now are for jobs/situations where such things already exist for other vaccines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: There wasn’t one. We were advising people to wait 90 days from when you were diagnosed to get your first vaccine. Weren't they pretty confident that you'd have some protection for up to 6 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Sure, perhaps, but no one is saying so. I think all of the mandates people are referring to now are for jobs/situations where such things already exist for other vaccines. I don't know of any other vaccines that are required to sit in a restaurant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, vikesfan89 said: I think lots of people would like one if it was possible You can tell the government/states are being extremely careful this time around by throwing out mandates after everything last year. They know if they force another lockdown a lot of people will go nuts and who knows what will happen. It really seems like they are walking a fine line of trying to do everything they can to urge people to get vaccinated but at the same time not put anything in stone causing a revolt. I dont want to sound over the top--but if they put the country in lockdown again I feel like there is a serious chance at things happening far worse than a few riots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, vikesfan89 said: Weren't they pretty confident that you'd have some protection for up to 6 months? You do have some, that’s why they said 90 days. How much and for how long is still being determined, hence the recommendation. It’s like how long does oil last in a vehicle? Do you push it as long as possible or just change it at regular intervals so you don’t find out the hard way exactly when the failure point is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, vikesfan89 said: I don't know of any other vaccines that are required to sit in a restaurant I don’t know of any other vaccines that people refuse in mass only to go and pass a novel virus to the rest of society either. It’s a unique situation for sure. As far as restaurants, it’s a public health concern, not unlike smoking indoors, etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: You do have some, that’s why they said 90 days. How much and for how long is still being determined, hence the recommendation. It’s like how long does oil last in a vehicle? Do you push it as long as possible or just change it at regular intervals so you don’t find out the hard way exactly when the failure point is? If there is an oil shortage and other people are desperate for it I would be ok waiting 5 months instead of changing it in 3 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: You can tell the government/states are being extremely careful this time around by throwing out mandates after everything last year. They know if they force another lockdown a lot of people will go nuts and who knows what will happen. It really seems like they are walking a fine line of trying to do everything they can to urge people to get vaccinated but at the same time not put anything in stone causing a revolt. I dont want to sound over the top--but if they put the country in lockdown again I feel like there is a serious chance at things happening far worse than a few riots. Idk, I think you’ll just see a lot of noncompliance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I don’t know of any other vaccines that people refuse in mass only to go and pass a novel virus to the rest of society either. It’s a unique situation for sure. As far as restaurants, it’s a public health concern, not unlike smoking indoors, etc. So the mandates aren't for things that have always been done before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, vikesfan89 said: If there is an oil shortage and other people are desperate for it I would be ok waiting 5 months instead of changing it in 3 months There isn’t one here in this country. Whether we should be getting those vaccines to other countries is another discussion (we should), but they’re plentiful here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: There isn’t one here in this country. Whether we should be getting those vaccines to other countries is another discussion (we should), but they’re plentiful here. I'm talking about when there was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Tik Tok is a scary place. The amount of BS I have seen on that damn app is insanity and people will believe anything That being said--I saw on Tik Tok the other day a graph of Covid cases for people with the vaccine vs. not by state and only like 2-3% of cases per state are people that were vaccinated. 97-99% of the cases have came from people without the vaccine. To be fair, it's a flawed graph. I've seen it, and read the parameters. IIRC it starts in January, well before a majority of people were vaccinated, and ends in May. It's actually more of an indictment on the vaccine than not. I wouldn't give it much thought. As to the Cleveland Clinic study, the official conclusion has been misrepresented by everyone thus far. It states: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before. However, the study has not been peer reviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, vikesfan89 said: So the mandates aren't for things that have always been done before No one is mandating you get a vaccine, at all. But, if you want to interact and be a part of society, there’s more than a single person’s feelings that need to be considered. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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