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8 minutes ago, Pugger said:

I hear ya, but can we out score MN with Rodgers back?  One good thing in our favor is the Viking game is in GB.  But first things first - AR has to pass this bone scan today!

The Vikings were down 3 OL by the end of that Carolina game and looked like the 2016 Vikings. If Reiff misses significant time, Matthews, Perry and Daniels need to feast. That team cannot survive the kind of injuries on the OL we endured the first 6 weeks of the season. Keenum is a product of their good play this far, if he's running around for his life, he's no different than the Keenum he has been at his other destinations.

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On ‎12‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 9:33 PM, incognito_man said:

With the exception of the season we won our last game we were let down. What a revelation :)

Unfortunately our offense and special teams were likely more at fault than our defense overall.

I'm convinced you must be Dom Capers nephew or something. Do you still think our defense is as good as Minnesota's? Your second statement is just pure bologna. The offense and specials teams were more at fault than the defense in the playoffs? That's just ridiculous.  I won't defense the special teams because they've been equally atrocious compared to the defense. Aaron Rodgers has 36 TDs, 10 INTs, and a 99 passer rating in the playoffs. Yet in 7 playoff losses the defense has given up 36 PPG. What planet do you live on? Has Rodgers regressed "slightly" in the playoffs? Sure. But that's playoff football. You play the elite teams in the NFL so of course his numbers are going to take a slight hit. Rodgers numbers in the playoffs are in another stratosphere compared to what Brady and P Manning did during their careers in the playoffs. The Packers with Rodgers at the helm have never scored fewer than 20 points in a playoff game. Tom Brady and P Manning had some real stinkers in the playoffs. Some of which they actually won because the defense helped carry the team.  For example. Tom Brady has played 34 playoff games. He posted a sub 90 passer rating in 17 of them. Tom Brady played below average in literally half his  playoff starts yet is hailed as a clutch playoff QB that always delivers. It really isn't true. The Patriots just consistently have a reliable defense that can be counted on to deliver a serviceable performance. Teams don't put 37 or 44 points on the Patriots in the playoffs. Teams do that with regularity against Capers defenses in the playoffs.

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Week 15:
Broncos, Lions, Chiefs, Packers, Bills, Ravens, Jaguars, Vikings, Saints, Eagles, Cardinals, Seahawks, Steelers, Titans, Cowboys, Falcons.

Week 16:
Ravens, Packers, Panthers, Bears, Lions, Chiefs, Patriots, Saints, Chargers, Titans, Redskins, Jaguars, Cardinals, Seahawks, Steelers, Eagles.

Week 17:
Falcons, Ravens, Packers, Texans, Dolphins, Vikings, Patriots, Redskins, Eagles, Steelers, Buccaneers, Jaguars, Broncos, Chargers, Rams, Seahawks.

That outcome would make the playoff seeding as follows:

Steelers, Jaguars
Ravens @ Patriots
Titans @ Chiefs

Eagles, Vikings
Packers @ Seahawks
Falcons @ Saints

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Teams the Packers cannot beat in the playoffs:

Atlanta (That offense is too fast for Dom's incompetence and Lego hair).
Saints (More because of their mix of defense and offense than their offense.  Their offense isn't as scary as people suggest).
Patriots (Tom Brady would literally never throw in the direction of Randall or House and he'd still have a perfect PR). 

Any other team, based on their lack of offense or defense or playoff experience, we can beat. 

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Just now, packfanfb said:

With ARod back it all comes down to the defense. Can our swiss cheese group hold up and beat 3 quality teams? I'd be more confident if we at least had King and House back there with Randall instead of a group of UDFAs. 

One reason for guarded optimism is how poorly our offense has played while Rodgers was out.  Think of all the extra possessions teams have had based on our inability to keep drives going.

No apologies or excuses for this defense: It's bad.  Still, it might be good enough to make things interesting the rest of the way.  They're CONSIDERABLY better than our defense was last year and we made it to the Championship game. 

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1 hour ago, HorizontoZenith said:

One reason for guarded optimism is how poorly our offense has played while Rodgers was out.  Think of all the extra possessions teams have had based on our inability to keep drives going.

No apologies or excuses for this defense: It's bad.  Still, it might be good enough to make things interesting the rest of the way.  They're CONSIDERABLY better than our defense was last year and we made it to the Championship game. 

I definitely agree that Rodgers back helps the defense in terms of controlling the ball, putting up points, etc. Not sure I agree that our defense right now is "considerably" better than last year. Our defense currently ranks either dead last or close to it in every major 3rd down and red zone scoring category, proving we have one of the poorest defenses in the league. Rodgers may be able to limit an opposing offense to fewer drives by controlling the ball, but whether an offense has 7 drives or 9, if during those 7 they are still having 5-10 minute drives, converting 3rd down after 3rd down after 3rd down, and scoring TDs in the red-zone, all of which our defense is allowing more than just about any other defense in the league, it still becomes very hard to win a football game, regardless of who is at QB. My hope is that the defense can magically make a few plays and play at the level that they played at last year during the regular season run. They played pretty well against Philly, Houston, Seattle, Minn and even Detroit during the run last year and we need that over these next 3 games. 

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26 minutes ago, SpeightTheVillain said:

Yeah we basically control our own destiny. Some combination of the teams we need to lose are going to. NFCS is gonna eat itself alive. Seahawks are gonna lose to either LA or DAL with Zeke. We just gotta win

This, it's surprising to me how clueless some of these NFL 'experts' are.  I keep hearing the Packers will win out but won't make the playoffs since they need monumental collapses from so many teams..... do they not realize all we need is Seattle to drop 1 game and Atlanta to lose in New Orleans?  No monumental collapses anywhere, we just need the favorites to win and the Packers to win.

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I'd love home playoff games (though almost no chance they happen) but I think may favorite scenario would be to be the 6 seed and have Minny be the 3. Nothing sweeter than going in that building and watching Rodgers burn to the ground their false hope. Then we'd be guaranteed to play Nick Foles in the Divisional round provided he beats the Giants this week. Hopefully LA or Seattle would make it to the NFCCG because I'm struggling with the thought of going against Brees, but hell we went to OT against a QB that had less incompletions than TDs, so with Aaron any game is winnable.

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