strat1080 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, Pugger said: Even if we lose to Cleveland McCarthy isn't getting fired. If we were losing like this with a competent QB instead of Hundley his job might be jeopardy. Well, Hundley is the backup QB and has been in the offense for 3 years. That's not an excuse. Its not like we are in a situation where Rodgers went down, then the backup went down. Hundley is the guy that McCarthy thought could backup Rodgers. He doesn't get a free pass for that. Look at the Vikings. They are without their top 2 options at QB and they are dominating. I agree for the most part. I don't realistically think McCarthy is on the hot seat. Capers though. I don't know. Here we are again. Another season with a below average defense. Even if we make the playoffs. What if we play New Orleans on the road? This defense will get burned like scorched earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 hours ago, strat1080 said: Well, Hundley is the backup QB and has been in the offense for 3 years. That's not an excuse. Its not like we are in a situation where Rodgers went down, then the backup went down. Hundley is the guy that McCarthy thought could backup Rodgers. He doesn't get a free pass for that. Look at the Vikings. They are without their top 2 options at QB and they are dominating. I agree for the most part. I don't realistically think McCarthy is on the hot seat. Capers though. I don't know. Here we are again. Another season with a below average defense. Even if we make the playoffs. What if we play New Orleans on the road? This defense will get burned like scorched earth. Already held them below their season average once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 11 hours ago, SpeightTheVillain said: Already held them below their season average once At home. If I'm being generous to the Packers, we hold the Saints to 35 in New Orleans. Probably more likely in the 40s. Two teams we cannot beat in the playoffs are the Saints and Falcons (on the road). We can beat Philly, LA, Seattle, and even Minnesota. I'd kill for a NFCCG in Minnesota right now. I'd like our chances all day with 12 at QB. Same scenario at NO or ATL, you'd see repeats of our last few trips to those stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Here's your Packer Parlay for this weekend * Last weekend was real close to cashing in a Big Ticket, only the effing eagles failed to come through Packers over Browns Atl loses to Saints. Carolina loses to minny- Kroenke's take out the Eagles Eli takes it out on Dallas, NYGs for the win Relocated Chargers take out Washington Seahawks get beat by the JVille's - ( it could happen) * lions will get their 7th and fatal loss the final weekend vs GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, packfanfb said: At home. If I'm being generous to the Packers, we hold the Saints to 35 in New Orleans. Probably more likely in the 40s. Two teams we cannot beat in the playoffs are the Saints and Falcons (on the road). We can beat Philly, LA, Seattle, and even Minnesota. I'd kill for a NFCCG in Minnesota right now. I'd like our chances all day with 12 at QB. Same scenario at NO or ATL, you'd see repeats of our last few trips to those stadiums. Its really awesome how you can see the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 I get the Atlanta fear. Atlanta has become an unwinnable location for us just like the Niners were as a team for a while. The Saints fear I don't get all that much. Falcons have fast running backs, fast receivers, fast tight ends and they fly on that field and we just can't keep up physically. The Saints are just the Drew Brees plus one or two good, not great receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryTsraining3s Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: I get the Atlanta fear. Atlanta has become an unwinnable location for us just like the Niners were as a team for a while. The Saints fear I don't get all that much. Falcons have fast running backs, fast receivers, fast tight ends and they fly on that field and we just can't keep up physically. The Saints are just the Drew Brees plus one or two good, not great receivers. What do you consider Alvin Kamara and Mark Ingram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Just now, MaryTsraining3s said: What do you consider Alvin Kamara and Mark Ingram? Not as scary as Freeman and Coleman on Atlanta's turf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 38 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: 1 hour ago, MaryTsraining3s said: What do you consider Alvin Kamara and Mark Ingram? Not as scary as Freeman and Coleman on Atlanta's turf? I wouldn't want to play the Saints in the dome either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryTsraining3s Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 40 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: Not as scary as Freeman and Coleman on Atlanta's turf? You say "Saints are JUST Drew Brees plus 1 or 2 good, not great receivers." I agree with the "not great receivers" part, but the Saints are not JUST Drew Brees plus those receivers. Kamara/Ingram are the best backfield tandem in the NFL right now, arguably. I would certainly take them over Freeman/Coleman at this very current moment. Regardless of who is better, my point was I was confused by you making it sound like you think the Saints are JUST Drew Brees + plus those receivers, but what I am seeing, Brees is relying almost heavily on those 2 running backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, HorizontoZenith said: I get the Atlanta fear. Atlanta has become an unwinnable location for us just like the Niners were as a team for a while. The Saints fear I don't get all that much. Falcons have fast running backs, fast receivers, fast tight ends and they fly on that field and we just can't keep up physically. The Saints are just the Drew Brees plus one or two good, not great receivers. Alvin Kamara would be a nightmare for us right now ... he's awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, Shanedorf said: Here's your Packer Parlay for this weekend * Last weekend was real close to cashing in a Big Ticket, only the effing eagles failed to come through Packers over Browns Atl loses to Saints. Carolina loses to minny- Kroenke's take out the Eagles Eli takes it out on Dallas, NYGs for the win Relocated Chargers take out Washington Seahawks get beat by the JVille's - ( it could happen) * lions will get their 7th and fatal loss the final weekend vs GB Here's another wrinkle. We want Carolina and Atlanta both to finish 10-6 (with CAR beating Atlanta week 17) Reason: Ties are first broken in the division. Carolina wins the TB over Atlanta if they beat them the last game of the year and they both finish 10-6 It's our way to a 5 seed That's why Dallas losing is important. If would invalidate our H2H win against Seattle if GB,. Dallas, and Seattle all finish 10-6. Seattle would then get in ahead of us, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Also, if all AWAY teams won from here on out, we would get in at 9-7 http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine/_/factor/away Or here's the magical dream sequence version http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine/_/factor/away/results/400951561~1~400951777~2~400951602~1~400951764~1~400951637~2~400951816~2~400951557~1~400951667~1~400951709~1~400951808~1~400951689~1~400951811~1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, MathMan said: Also, if all AWAY teams won from here on out, we would get in at 9-7 http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine/_/factor/away Or here's the magical dream sequence version http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine/_/factor/away/results/400951561~1~400951777~2~400951602~1~400951764~1~400951637~2~400951816~2~400951557~1~400951667~1~400951709~1~400951808~1~400951689~1~400951811~1 Lol that can actually still happen. I know it's impossible but still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 36 minutes ago, MathMan said: Here's another wrinkle. We want Carolina and Atlanta both to finish 10-6 (with CAR beating Atlanta week 17) Reason: Ties are first broken in the division. Carolina wins the TB over Atlanta if they beat them the last game of the year and they both finish 10-6 It's our way to a 5 seed That's why Dallas losing is important. If would invalidate our H2H win against Seattle if GB,. Dallas, and Seattle all finish 10-6. Seattle would then get in ahead of us, How would that be? If Seattle, Carolina, Green Bay, Dallas and ATL all finished 10-6 it would go to conference record. ATL would be guaranteed a spot as to record 10 wins they would have 3 NFC losses (3 of their 5 losses are to the AFCE), we have 4, Seattle has losses to us, ATL and Washington in the NFC, and only 1 AFC game left, they'll have a minimum of 4 losses in the NFC, if they beat Jax and lose to Dallas and LAR they'll have 5. We want ATL out. They have a H2H win against us, the least amount of conference losses and make our common opponent W/L worse. We want them 9-7, not 10-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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