TENINCH Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Josh thought his job was secure. 🤨🤨🤨 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 This is what Winston did last year. Get in line on a good team behind a good QB and just learn how to do things the right way. Lets just say they do things at a better Pace in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveOurSonics Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, GOGRIESE said: I mean I've been Mitch for all of his career so far. So yes that's just reality. So the 33-year-old statue QB who put up a 4-5 record, sub 65% completion%, 3.5:2 TD:INT, 6.5 YPA, and 53.8 QBR is more promising than the 26-year-old mobile QB who put up a 6-3 record, 67% completion%, 2:1 TD:INT, 6.9 YPA, and 61.3 QBR with a worse offensive supporting cast? Not to mention one is at least familiar with the system and showed signs of improving last season whereas the other is what he is. Again, if you want to believe that, I'm going to let you believe that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflbillsfan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 People who think Josh's job is on the line with this signing clearly doesn't watch football. Once the draft is over the Bills will be working on a new deal to get him long term. As for those who watch football this is a smart move for both sides. Mitch will get some learning in on a team without the pressure of having to contribute unless Allen goes down. He will be able to learn from Daboll/Dorsey in which both were heavily praised for the growth in Allen along with Palmer (in the offseason). Mitch will then be able work on himself and look for a team that needs a starter next year in which his stock can only grow. I think the Niners would have been a better option for him as Jimmy G isnt a lock to stay healthy but maybe the Niners weren't looking at him. Outside of that no team is going to give him a legit chance to start this year. Carolina is paying Bridgewater 20+ mil and probably drafting one, Jets have darnold and probably drafting one, Patriots paid Cam to be their guy this year, Saints paid Winston to be their guy this year, Bears went Dalton over him. No real team is out there that is going to allow him to compete for starting job. Now he can learn and then next year move on to a team who may give him the opportunity. Also if Daboll gets a HC job he may put in a good word on who he wants his qb to be for that year if the qb isnt on the roster on the time. Bills will then get compensation for his deal if he decides to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, SaveOurSonics said: So the 33-year-old statue QB who put up a 4-5 record, sub 65% completion%, 3.5:2 TD:INT, 6.5 YPA, and 53.8 QBR is more promising than the 26-year-old mobile QB who put up a 6-3 record, 67% completion%, 2:1 TD:INT, 6.9 YPA, and 61.3 QBR with a worse offensive supporting cast? Not to mention one is at least familiar with the system and showed signs of improving last season whereas the other is what he is. Again, if you want to believe that, I'm going to let you believe that. Did you look at the defenses he played against at the end of last year? You may want to rethink your question you posed to us earlier. Why were teams flocking to Andy Dalton trying to sign him and Mitch sat on the market with almost no suitors? Maybe it's because the stats you quoted was the real illusion. It doesn't matter to the Bears who's more "promising" for the future. Can Mitch run Nagy's offense? No. There's your reason why he's no longer here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, soflbillsfan said: People who think Josh's job is on the line with this signing clearly doesn't watch football. Once the draft is over the Bills will be working on a new deal to get him long term. As for those who watch football this is a smart move for both sides. Mitch will get some learning in on a team without the pressure of having to contribute unless Allen goes down. He will be able to learn from Daboll/Dorsey in which both were heavily praised for the growth in Allen along with Palmer (in the offseason). Mitch will then be able work on himself and look for a team that needs a starter next year in which his stock can only grow. I think the Niners would have been a better option for him as Jimmy G isnt a lock to stay healthy but maybe the Niners weren't looking at him. Outside of that no team is going to give him a legit chance to start this year. Carolina is paying Bridgewater 20+ mil and probably drafting one, Jets have darnold and probably drafting one, Patriots paid Cam to be their guy this year, Saints paid Winston to be their guy this year, Bears went Dalton over him. No real team is out there that is going to allow him to compete for starting job. Now he can learn and then next year move on to a team who may give him the opportunity. Also if Daboll gets a HC job he may put in a good word on who he wants his qb to be for that year if the qb isnt on the roster on the time. Bills will then get compensation for his deal if he decides to leave. Solid take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveOurSonics Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, GOGRIESE said: Did you look at the defenses he played against at the end of last year? You may want to rethink your question you posed to us earlier. Why were teams flocking to Andy Dalton trying to sign him and Mitch sat on the market with almost no suitors? Maybe it's because the stats you quoted was the real illusion. It doesn't matter to the Bears who's more "promising" for the future. Can Mitch run Nagy's offense? No. There's your reason why he's no longer here. So the win-now Bears care more about squeezing what little promise they have in 2021 rather than vetting out and improving a guy with at least a shred of potential left? Sounds like a head coach acting in the interest of retaining his job rather than what makes sense for progressing the team. Side note: What teams were "flocking to Andy Dalton", exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflbillsfan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, GOGRIESE said: Did you look at the defenses he played against at the end of last year? You may want to rethink your question you posed to us earlier. Why were teams flocking to Andy Dalton trying to sign him and Mitch sat on the market with almost no suitors? Maybe it's because the stats you quoted was the real illusion. It doesn't matter to the Bears who's more "promising" for the future. Can Mitch run Nagy's offense? No. There's your reason why he's no longer here. Just curious who was in on Dalton outside of the Bears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, soflbillsfan said: People who think Josh's job is on the line with this signing clearly doesn't watch football. Once the draft is over the Bills will be working on a new deal to get him long term. As for those who watch football this is a smart move for both sides. Mitch will get some learning in on a team without the pressure of having to contribute unless Allen goes down. He will be able to learn from Daboll/Dorsey in which both were heavily praised for the growth in Allen along with Palmer (in the offseason). Mitch will then be able work on himself and look for a team that needs a starter next year in which his stock can only grow. I think the Niners would have been a better option for him as Jimmy G isnt a lock to stay healthy but maybe the Niners weren't looking at him. Outside of that no team is going to give him a legit chance to start this year. Carolina is paying Bridgewater 20+ mil and probably drafting one, Jets have darnold and probably drafting one, Patriots paid Cam to be their guy this year, Saints paid Winston to be their guy this year, Bears went Dalton over him. No real team is out there that is going to allow him to compete for starting job. Now he can learn and then next year move on to a team who may give him the opportunity. Also if Daboll gets a HC job he may put in a good word on who he wants his qb to be for that year if the qb isnt on the roster on the time. Bills will then get compensation for his deal if he decides to leave. Mitch is coming for his ***! 😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOGRIESE Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, SaveOurSonics said: So the win-now Bears care more about squeezing what little promise they have in 2021 rather than vetting out and improving a guy with at least a shred of potential left? Sounds like a head coach acting in the interest of retaining his job rather than what makes sense for progressing the team. Side note: What teams were "flocking to Andy Dalton", exactly? Andy Dalton had several avenues were he could have gone and probably would have signed that day. Hell he said so himself today. Where have you been? This has been their entire mission since they were given 1 more year. They can't look beyond this year because they aren't guaranteed anything beyond this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveOurSonics Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, GOGRIESE said: Andy Dalton had several avenues were he could have gone and probably would have signed that day. Hell he said so himself today. Where have you been? This has been their entire mission since they were given 1 more year. They can't look beyond this year because they aren't guaranteed anything beyond this year. Like....where? Oh, Andy said more than 1 team wanted him. Case closed. Sounds like a sad state for the franchise to be in. Don't do what's best for the team, do what's best for you personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fureys49ers Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, SaveOurSonics said: Like....where? Oh, Andy said more than 1 team wanted him. Case closed. Sounds like a sad state for the franchise to be in. Don't do what's best for the team, do what's best for you personally. Not sure how we got here on the topic of Andy Dalton but the Niners were supposedly trying to bring Andy in as Jimmy G’s back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, SaveOurSonics said: So the win-now Bears care more about squeezing what little promise they have in 2021 rather than vetting out and improving a guy with at least a shred of potential left? The staff became unsure that Mitch could ever be a decent starter. They'd given him enough time, and his consistency issues remained. Mitch may never be more than a backup. One thing's for sure though, whatever potential he has left was unlikely to be tapped in Chicago. Mitch's problems are entirely mental, and the pressure of being the Bears starter (as well as being "that guy that was drafted before Mahommes and Watson") wasn't doing him a bit of good. He needed a change of scenery. 13 minutes ago, SaveOurSonics said: Side note: What teams were "flocking to Andy Dalton", exactly? Let's not be silly. I haven't read up on it, but you just know people were lining up to sign Dalton. Borderline starter, top-end backup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, SaveOurSonics said: Sounds like a sad state for the franchise to be in. Don't do what's best for the team, do what's best for you personally. It is a sad state for the Bears. There's a chance they can make everything work, but it's slim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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