Bills sign QB Mitch Trubisky (1 year deal, $2.5M)

[Damikeeeee]

1 minute ago, LinebackerGod said:

Lmfao what kind of take is this? 😂

Watch Mitch hold a team back every week and you'll agree. A few average games against the worst defenses in the NFL don't make you a good QB. Know what you're talking about or have some quiet time. 

[LinebackerGod]

1 hour ago, Damikeeeee said:

Watch Mitch hold a team back every week and you'll agree. A few average games against the worst defenses in the NFL don't make you a good QB. Know what you're talking about or have some quiet time. 

Nobody said he was a good QB lol. You said he was a camp body, which is hilarious. He’s a high end backup. The Bears were held back offensively? Yeah, I’m sure they’ll be a juggernaut now that the problem is solved. 😆

[43M]

34 minutes ago, LinebackerGod said:

Nobody said he was a good QB lol. You said he was a camp body, which is hilarious. He’s a high end backup. The Bears were held back offensively? Yeah, I’m sure they’ll be a juggernaut now that the problem is solved. 😆

Yeah.   He is much better than just a camp arm.

He is certainly not a long term starter, but a backup behind a true franchise QB like Josh Allen is about the best situation he could go to.

And $2.5m is not an overpay...its a steal, even for a backup QB.     High end backups can make upwards of $10m, and Trubisky will be one of the top backups this year. guaranteed. 

[Damikeeeee]

1 hour ago, LinebackerGod said:

Nobody said he was a good QB lol. You said he was a camp body, which is hilarious. He’s a high end backup. The Bears were held back offensively? Yeah, I’m sure they’ll be a juggernaut now that the problem is solved. 😆

The entire NFL had a chance to pay him like a high end backup and no one did. He did get a high end K/P deal though. 

If you don't think he held the team back then you're talking just to talk. Never said juggernaut. Take your hyperbole somewhere else. 

Did your mom give you too much computer time?  This is how Mitch won that Nickelodeon award 😂😂

[Tk3]

His numbers are reasonable, even in his "bad" years. I agree he is a bottom quartile starter, and the fact that they chose Dalton over him is damning - but he's an above average backup

He's more of a "Blake Bortles bust" than he is an "EJ Manuel bust". He's usable in a backup function

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					51	50	29-21-0	1010	1577	64.0	10609	64	4.1	37	2.3	543	70	6.7	6.5	10.5	208.0	87.2		111	698	5.87	5.64	6.6	5	7	35
2017	23	CHI	QB	10	12	12	4-8-0	196	330	59.4	2193	7	2.1	7	2.1	100	70	6.6	6.1	11.2	182.8	77.5	32.4	31	196	5.53	5.05	8.6	0	1	7
2018*	24	CHI	QB	10	14	14	11-3-0	289	434	66.6	3223	24	5.5	12	2.8	163	70	7.4	7.3	11.2	230.2	95.4	71.0	24	143	6.72	6.59	5.2	1	2	13
2019	25	CHI	QB	10	15	15	8-7-0	326	516	63.2	3138	17	3.3	10	1.9	156	53	6.1	5.9	9.6	209.2	83.0	41.5	38	234	5.24	5.04	6.9	3	3	8
2020	26	CHI	qb	10	10	9	6-3-0	199	297	67.0	2055	16	5.4	8	2.7	124	53	6.9	6.8	10.3	205.5	93.5	61.3	18	125	6.13	6.00	5.7	1	1	7

[LinebackerGod]

55 minutes ago, Damikeeeee said:

The entire NFL had a chance to pay him like a high end backup and no one did. He did get a high end K/P deal though. 

If you don't think he held the team back then you're talking just to talk. Never said juggernaut. Take your hyperbole somewhere else. 

Did your mom give you too much computer time?  This is how Mitch won that Nickelodeon award 😂😂

Can a mod shame this clown please? 

[Damikeeeee]

1 minute ago, LinebackerGod said:

Can a mod shame this clown please? 

Now you're mad cause you're wrong? 😂

[Damikeeeee]

38 minutes ago, Tk3 said:

His numbers are reasonable, even in his "bad" years. I agree he is a bottom quartile starter, and the fact that they chose Dalton over him is damning - but he's an above average backup

He's more of a "Blake Bortles bust" than he is an "EJ Manuel bust". He's usable in a backup function

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					51	50	29-21-0	1010	1577	64.0	10609	64	4.1	37	2.3	543	70	6.7	6.5	10.5	208.0	87.2		111	698	5.87	5.64	6.6	5	7	35
2017	23	CHI	QB	10	12	12	4-8-0	196	330	59.4	2193	7	2.1	7	2.1	100	70	6.6	6.1	11.2	182.8	77.5	32.4	31	196	5.53	5.05	8.6	0	1	7
2018*	24	CHI	QB	10	14	14	11-3-0	289	434	66.6	3223	24	5.5	12	2.8	163	70	7.4	7.3	11.2	230.2	95.4	71.0	24	143	6.72	6.59	5.2	1	2	13
2019	25	CHI	QB	10	15	15	8-7-0	326	516	63.2	3138	17	3.3	10	1.9	156	53	6.1	5.9	9.6	209.2	83.0	41.5	38	234	5.24	5.04	6.9	3	3	8
2020	26	CHI	qb	10	10	9	6-3-0	199	297	67.0	2055	16	5.4	8	2.7	124	53	6.9	6.8	10.3	205.5	93.5	61.3	18	125	6.13	6.00	5.7	1	1	7

I'd say he's more EJ Manuel than he is Dwayne Haskins. Manuel is actually a good comparison. 

Mitch can't do anything you ask a QB to do to help win the game.  You just hope he doesn't lose it. Which he's been OK at.  Every OK game he had this year was against a bottom 5 D.  You defend Mitch the same way you do Lamar Jackson.  Let him sit in the pocket and throw. He can't. He had some decent stretches when we were down big but once it's not prevent he wets himself. It's truly hard to watch. 

[Tk3]

32 minutes ago, Damikeeeee said:

I'd say he's more EJ Manuel than he is Dwayne Haskins. Manuel is actually a good comparison. 

Mitch can't do anything you ask a QB to do to help win the game.  You just hope he doesn't lose it. Which he's been OK at.  Every OK game he had this year was against a bottom 5 D.  You defend Mitch the same way you do Lamar Jackson.  Let him sit in the pocket and throw. He can't. He had some decent stretches when we were down big but once it's not prevent he wets himself. It's truly hard to watch. 

I'll be honest when I say I haven't watched a TON of Trubs. But if you have that take then I have to imagine you didn't watch much of Manuel

I'd be shocked if Manuel even had a 1:1 TD:Int ratio or a 60% completion rate

Manuel could never have had the relative success that Mitch had

Bortles still feels like a better comp for me

[Damikeeeee]

35 minutes ago, Tk3 said:

I'll be honest when I say I haven't watched a TON of Trubs. But if you have that take then I have to imagine you didn't watch much of Manuel

I'd be shocked if Manuel even had a 1:1 TD:Int ratio or a 60% completion rate

Manuel could never have had the relative success that Mitch had

Bortles still feels like a better comp for me

I actually did. My brother who's my roommate is a die hard Bills fan.  I agree they're different but the talent is similar. Both have the physical ability but just don't get it.

[Pool]

3 hours ago, Damikeeeee said:

I actually did. My brother who's my roommate is a die hard Bills fan.  I agree they're different but the talent is similar. Both have the physical ability but just don't get it.

Mitch is not nearly as bad as you are trying to make him out to be. Camp arm is a laughably bad take.

[Damikeeeee]

7 minutes ago, Pool said:

Mitch is not nearly as bad as you are trying to make him out to be. Camp arm is a laughably bad take.

Then why did he get less than Flacco?  Mitch doesn't improve the QB room. Is he gonna help Allen develop?  He's shown he can't be developed into more than he is now. Every team could use a quality backup. That's not Mitch. The contract doesn't lie. 

[Trentwannabe]

2 hours ago, Damikeeeee said:

Then why did he get less than Flacco?  Mitch doesn't improve the QB room. Is he gonna help Allen develop?  He's shown he can't be developed into more than he is now. Every team could use a quality backup. That's not Mitch. The contract doesn't lie. 

The contracts isn’t really a good argument. Not unless the Bills offered Flacco or a different QB more money then they signed Trubisky for. Which they didn’t. 

Guys on the open market get overpaid  early or end up taking 1 year prove it type deals. Trubisky is clearly the latter. 

The way you speak about him In absolutes wreaks of a sour Bears fans. Which, I get, your front office made a horrible selection and that sucks. But a change of scenery has helped young QBs and players before. Trubisky could be that. 
 

[SteelKing728]

On 3/20/2021 at 8:49 AM, Damikeeeee said:

Anyone who thinks Mitch should or could compete for any starting job didn't watch him or doesn't have a single clue as to what they're talking about. This is a slight overpay and let's not even assume he's a lock to make the team. He's a camp arm. 

Mitch stinks as a starter but I'd take him as my top backup. He can't be any worse than Sean Mannion.

[blkwdw13]

16 hours ago, Tk3 said:

His numbers are reasonable, even in his "bad" years. I agree he is a bottom quartile starter, and the fact that they chose Dalton over him is damning - but he's an above average backup

He's more of a "Blake Bortles bust" than he is an "EJ Manuel bust". He's usable in a backup function

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					51	50	29-21-0	1010	1577	64.0	10609	64	4.1	37	2.3	543	70	6.7	6.5	10.5	208.0	87.2		111	698	5.87	5.64	6.6	5	7	35
2017	23	CHI	QB	10	12	12	4-8-0	196	330	59.4	2193	7	2.1	7	2.1	100	70	6.6	6.1	11.2	182.8	77.5	32.4	31	196	5.53	5.05	8.6	0	1	7
2018*	24	CHI	QB	10	14	14	11-3-0	289	434	66.6	3223	24	5.5	12	2.8	163	70	7.4	7.3	11.2	230.2	95.4	71.0	24	143	6.72	6.59	5.2	1	2	13
2019	25	CHI	QB	10	15	15	8-7-0	326	516	63.2	3138	17	3.3	10	1.9	156	53	6.1	5.9	9.6	209.2	83.0	41.5	38	234	5.24	5.04	6.9	3	3	8
2020	26	CHI	qb	10	10	9	6-3-0	199	297	67.0	2055	16	5.4	8	2.7	124	53	6.9	6.8	10.3	205.5	93.5	61.3	18	125	6.13	6.00	5.7	1	1	7

The Bears didn’t choose Dalton over Trubisky, they settled for Dalton over Trubisky. After what happened one Botha sides of the Trubisky/coaches the last two years he was never coming back and they were never bringing him back. My personal feelings on him is that right now he is a low end start with potential to be an average starter with the right coaching, which the Bills like to be a great spot to develop a QB. I believe that is why he went there, and he even supposedly took less money to go there. Whether that is true is another story.