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ny92mike Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Lot of money...16 million for two years. We're paying Engram 6 million. So either the team is playing a two tight end set and can't afford Golladay or Engram is being traded. Don't think they can afford both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giants4eva Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I honestly do not understand this move at all. I dont see any see reason why we brought in a guy whos long in the tooth for that kind of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, Giants4eva said: I honestly do not understand this move at all. I dont see any see reason why we brought in a guy whos long in the tooth for that kind of money. Dave Gettleman...explains everything for me...haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 39 minutes ago, ny92mike said: Lot of money...16 million for two years. We're paying Engram 6 million. So either the team is playing a two tight end set and can't afford Golladay or Engram is being traded. Don't think they can afford both. While it may be 2 for $16M, the initial post was deleted by the agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, Acgott said: While it may be 2 for $16M, the initial post was deleted by the agent. Seeing it is closer to 14 million...Still I expect year one to be around 6 million but we'll see where it is at some point today or tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Giants4eva said: I honestly do not understand this move at all. I dont see any see reason why we brought in a guy whos long in the tooth for that kind of money. Because he can catch and is still one of the more reliable red zone targets in the league. As a bonus, he's a leader and a stand-up guy both on and off the field. I look forward to seeing him in blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 @minutemancl mentioned something interesting in the NFL News forum. Perhaps they signed Rudolph for the starting TE role, and they plan to move EE over to wideout where he would be a huge mismatch on most DB's? We know EE struggles at the underneath hitch and curl routes. But he seems to shine in the medium to deep stuff. Garrett does love his TE's though so maybe this was just a depth signing. EE, Rudolph, Smith is a pretty talented group. I don't think this means EE is getting moved, there is 6M of dead money on his contract for 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shockwave said: @minutemancl mentioned something interesting in the NFL News forum. Perhaps they signed Rudolph for the starting TE role, and they plan to move EE over to wideout where he would be a huge mismatch on most DB's? We know EE struggles at the underneath hitch and curl routes. But he seems to shine in the medium to deep stuff. Garrett does love his TE's though so maybe this was just a depth signing. EE, Rudolph, Smith is a pretty talented group. I don't think this means EE is getting moved, there is 6M of dead money on his contract for 2021. If traded he wouldn't cost us anything. But if released it would cost us the full amount. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, ny92mike said: If traded he wouldn't cost us anything. But if released it would cost us the full amount. Ahh I see. Well if traded at least we'd be getting some equity in return but I hope they keep him. I still think he can emerge as a lethal receiver at some point. Just don't think his hands are good enough for the quick underneath passing routes. He's better off where he can catch the ball in space and use his length and speed to make big plays down the field. He could be a Plax 2.0 if they use him right. Rudolph is a much more sure handed as an outlet receiver, and a capable blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Shockwave said: Ahh I see. Well if traded at least we'd be getting some equity in return but I hope they keep him. I still think he can emerge as a lethal receiver at some point. Just don't think his hands are good enough for the quick underneath passing routes. He's better off where he can catch the ball in space and use his length and speed to make big plays down the field. He could be a Plax 2.0 if they use him right. Rudolph is a much more sure handed as an outlet receiver, and a capable blocker. Evan clearly struggled catching last season but it isn't his MO. His catch % was pretty good the previous two years 70.3%/64.7%. I just think that perhaps the team was asking too much of him last season. If their idea is to run more two tight end sets, I'm good with that. Agree with you as I'm not a fan of trading him as I think he still has a lot to offer this team. If they could land Golladay we'd have a pretty lethal group and the talent that Jones has needed for a few years. When they drafted him, I thought he could shift to wide out because of his speed, he's bulked up since then so I'm not sure how that would translate now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ny92mike Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Not as high as I was expecting, based on what we were hearing. The original number was 16 million then it dropped to 14 million, the final number is 12 million for two years. Year One: 4.275 million cap hit Year Two: 7.25 million cap hit. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/kyle-rudolph-7762/ Kyle Rudolph signed a 2 year, $12,000,000 contract with the New York Giants, including a $4,500,000 signing bonus, $4,500,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $6,000,000. In 2021, Rudolph will earn a base salary of $2,500,000 and a signing bonus of $4,500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $4,750,000 and a dead cap value of $4,500,000. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Rudolph is a rock solid TE, leader in the locker room and also a great man off the field. Good signing for the giants but maybe a little bit too much $$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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