FGK Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Am I the only one who is absolutely floored by that WFT/Atlanta trade? I mean, moving from 19 to 4 using essentially only Brandon Scherff? The guy is great, but you're gonna need to give him a top of the market deal THIS YEAR and he's already 29. I mean, wow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just now, FGK said: Am I the only one who is absolutely floored by that WFT/Atlanta trade? I mean, moving from 19 to 4 using essentially only Brandon Scherff? The guy is great, but you're gonna need to give him a top of the market deal THIS YEAR and he's already 29. I mean, wow! Nope, you are not the only one..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusGluteus Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, FGK said: Am I the only one who is absolutely floored by that WFT/Atlanta trade? I mean, moving from 19 to 4 using essentially only Brandon Scherff? The guy is great, but you're gonna need to give him a top of the market deal THIS YEAR and he's already 29. I mean, wow! That was my reaction as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) lol lets give the WFT GM some props here guys pulled of a coup love to see it out here bamboozling folks making Atlanta look like the moribund Texans of the NFC, rivaling his holiness Easterby Edited March 29, 2021 by BucsDraftGeek47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, FGK said: Am I the only one who is absolutely floored by that WFT/Atlanta trade? I mean, moving from 19 to 4 using essentially only Brandon Scherff? The guy is great, but you're gonna need to give him a top of the market deal THIS YEAR and he's already 29. I mean, wow! It really wasn't that bad of a trade. It appears as if they weren't interested in a QB at 4. So then let's assume they take another one of the BPAs there, either Pitts or Chase. Then they still need a Guard so lets say they address that in the 2nd with say, Wyatt Davis out of OSU. The trade moves them from 4 to 19, lets say at 19 they land someone like CB Jaycee Horn, then in the 2nd they're opened up to select something else than a Guard and they take WR Kadarius Toney. Is a Pitts/Davis draft way superior to Horn/Toney/Scherff? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGK Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 On 3/27/2021 at 8:24 PM, scar988 said: the market inefficiency is taking the known over the unknown. Scherff is a known badass at the position. The Falcons needed a 5th offensive lineman, so why not add an All-Pro at the position to a line that would benefit heavily from it instead of a TON of draft picks. They were only asking for a 2nd round pick for him. You just moved back 15 spots, with a franchise QB (or someone people think can be one at least) available, and instead of auctioning him to the highest bidder and then giving Washington one of the MANY picks you could have gotten for moving back to #8, #9, etc. you moved down much, much further, for ONLY Scherff. Plus, the reason you go with unknowns is salary. Does anyone know if ATL can even afford Scherff's 18M cap hit this year? And he's gonna want a top of the mark 18-20M deal starting next year. So now you're trying to fit that in when already in cap hell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just now, FGK said: They were only asking for a 2nd round pick for him. You just moved back 15 spots, with a franchise QB (or someone people think can be one at least) available, and instead of auctioning him to the highest bidder and then giving Washington one of the MANY picks you could have gotten for moving back to #8, #9, etc. you moved down much, much further, for ONLY Scherff. Plus, the reason you go with unknowns is salary. Does anyone know if ATL can even afford Scherff's 18M cap hit this year? And he's gonna want a top of the mark 18-20M deal starting next year. So now you're trying to fit that in when already in cap hell. I shopped pick 4 for hours yesterday, no one was interested in trading up. If he wanted to move down he got the best deal he was going to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, MKnight82 said: It really wasn't that bad of a trade. It appears as if they weren't interested in a QB at 4. So then let's assume they take another one of the BPAs there, either Pitts or Chase. Then they still need a Guard so lets say they address that in the 2nd with say, Wyatt Davis out of OSU. The trade moves them from 4 to 19, lets say at 19 they land someone like CB Jaycee Horn, then in the 2nd they're opened up to select something else than a Guard and they take WR Kadarius Toney. Is a Pitts/Davis draft way superior to Horn/Toney/Scherff? I don't think so. nah fam whichever way you put it, trading from the 20s up into the Top 5! and you basically gave up just Scherff, trade rape Bravo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, BucsDraftGeek47 said: nah fam whichever way you put it, trading from the 20s up into the Top 5! and you basically gave up just Scherff, trade rape Bravo Yeah, it's definitely not great value for Atlanta. They could have got a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Lest we forget I think @MKnight82 did some fleecing of a trade in TCMD too 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, D82 said: Yeah, it's definitely not great value for Atlanta. They could have got a lot more. Not in FFMD they couldn’t have. I’m telling you there were no offers out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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winitall Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: I shopped pick 4 for hours yesterday, no one was interested in trading up. If he wanted to move down he got the best deal he was going to get. I’m pretty sure the Chiefs GM has been trying ridiculously hard to move up. I think he was willing to give up his kidney and first born for Sewell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: Not in FFMD they couldn’t have. I’m telling you there were no offers out there. I could have traded down with Buffalo or KC and gotten like 2 drafts worth of picks. Woo hoo. A bunch of late 1sts and 2nds and 3rds from two of hte best teams in the league. None of which guaranteed me an All-Pro Guard for a line that will absolutely need one. Value is all relative. I like what we did and an All-Pro Guard for 5 years in his prime is worth the money and the value we gave up for him. Also, the cap is a myth. Boom, we instantly re-structured Jarrett and Julio and Jones and we're still under the cap. It's really not hard to realize this is honestly a soft cap and not a hard cap. Edited March 29, 2021 by scar988 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGK Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, MKnight82 said: I shopped pick 4 for hours yesterday, no one was interested in trading up. If he wanted to move down he got the best deal he was going to get. ... Carolina literally has an offer sitting in the trade forum waiting for your approval to move to #4 for #8, a 2nd, and a 3rd. So BARE MINIMUM he could've moved to 8 instead of 19, gotten an extra 3rd, and given you the 2nd round pick for Scherff. So he could've had a 3rd round pick and been getting his choice of the guys available right now (Waddle, Horn, Slater) instead of NOT having an extra 3rd and getting somebody ten picks down the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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