Ray Reed Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 50 minutes ago, DontTazeMeBro said: Might actually be more than 10 years. But Terrence Cody for sure. Think that was 2011...that Terrence Cody/Sergio Kindle duo baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP_allday2869 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Uncle Buck said: Kyle Rudolph is a good choice for Round 2. The first round choice has to be Christian Ponder. I'd vote for Laquon Treadwell over Ponder. At least Ponder had some wheels, sort of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 minute ago, AP_allday2869 said: I'd vote for Laquon Treadwell over Ponder. At least Ponder had some wheels, sort of True. I remember Treadwell being thought of as the best receiver in that entire draft. I was so happy when he fell to us and we took him. I guess now we know why he fell to us. Hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringinDaPain Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Everett Brown, Jimmy Clausen and Kelvin Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 2:22 PM, DontTazeMeBro said: Might actually be more than 10 years. But Terrence Cody for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: This is what NTs are supposed to look like: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 7:17 PM, AP_allday2869 said: I'd vote for Laquon Treadwell over Ponder. At least Ponder had some wheels, sort of Ponder was a decent athlete, but poor QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Jarvis Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 1:43 PM, Trojan said: I think it's Clelin Ferrell? Raider fan so we basically typically pick athletes lol Packers, same. Probably Eddie Lacy or Jerrel Worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 1:20 PM, ET80 said: 1st or 2nd? What's that? 2nd is what you give the Texans to get Deandre Hopkins. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Josh Rosen. Easily Rosen. Dude was a statue. It's not like his arms are massive, or anything. He just has probably the tightest spiral and one of the best throwing motions I've ever seen, though. Lets the ball just explode out of his hand. But he's a bad athlete in comparison to NFL players. And then we drafted Kyler Murray the next year, who literally moves like no other QB in the NFL. Mwahahahaha. In round 2... Markus Golden, maybe? Golden isn't really an impressive athlete, but his motor is fantastic. Byron Murphy tested below average in the 40, scary-short arms, below-average bench, hand size, weight, broad jump. Received a 49/100 from NFL Combine Results. Steve Keim typically drafts great athletes. A lot of the guys end up busting because of character, football IQ, not having a position, etc. And not just in the first round. Keim REALLY likes to draft burners. He'll often draft guys that are undersized in favor of speed. Many of his recent draft picks have had incredibly low size measurements, but have tested really well in explosion drills, like the 40, outstanding 10-yard splits, vertical, and broad jump. I mean, Keim could be a Raiders GM. Since he took over, we've taken: Isaiah Simmons 93 percentile height, 98.6 percentile 40, 97.7 percentile splits, 91.5 percentile vertical, 99.2 percentile broad jump. Kyler Murray Multi-sport 1st-round draftee, otherworldly agility, great speed, strong arm Byron Murphy One of the less athletic Keim picks, but likely would have tested really well in the shuttle and three-cone. But yeah, not a great athlete. Andy Isabella 98.9 percentile 40 Josh Rosen Good size at 6'4", 226, but below average as an athlete. Christian Kirk 82.3 percentile hands, 4.47 40, 89 percentile 10-yard split, 88.6 percentile bench Haason Reddick 99.7 percentile 40, 99.4 percentile 20, 97 percentile 10, 89.5 percentile vertical, 99.7 percentile broad jump, 91.3 percentile 3-cone Budda Baker 92.3 percentile 40, 90.2 percentile 20, 84.4 percentile shuttle, 89.6 percentile 3-cone. Robert Nkemdiche 94.5 percentile 40, 90.3 percentile 20, 96.2 percentile 10, 97.6 percentile vertical, 96.3 percentile broad jump. DJ Humphries 82.7 percentile 40, 85.5 percentile vertical Markus Golden Eek. High-effort. Deone Bucannon 89.1 percentile 40, 90.6 percentile 10, 83.3 percentile broad jump Troy Niklas Not your typical Keim pick. Big and strong, but not explosive. 95.3 percentile height, 94.1 percentile weight, 93.5 percentile bench Jonathan Cooper 91.8 percentile 40, 95.5 percentile 20, 95.1 percentile bench, 83.1 percentile broad jump and Kevin Minter All in the first two rounds. Like, in general, you see a lot of Keim eschewing standard conventions about size and targeting smaller guys who are really speedy or explosive. So yeah, he could be a Raiders GM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 12 hours ago, HoboRocket said: Josh Rosen. Easily Rosen. Dude was a statue. It's not like his arms are massive, or anything. He just has probably the tightest spiral and one of the best throwing motions I've ever seen, though. Lets the ball just explode out of his hand. But he's a bad athlete in comparison to NFL players. And then we drafted Kyler Murray the next year, who literally moves like no other QB in the NFL. Mwahahahaha. In round 2... Markus Golden, maybe? Golden isn't really an impressive athlete, but his motor is fantastic. Byron Murphy tested below average in the 40, scary-short arms, below-average bench, hand size, weight, broad jump. Received a 49/100 from NFL Combine Results. Steve Keim typically drafts great athletes. A lot of the guys end up busting because of character, football IQ, not having a position, etc. And not just in the first round. Keim REALLY likes to draft burners. He'll often draft guys that are undersized in favor of speed. Many of his recent draft picks have had incredibly low size measurements, but have tested really well in explosion drills, like the 40, outstanding 10-yard splits, vertical, and broad jump. I mean, Keim could be a Raiders GM. Since he took over, we've taken: Isaiah Simmons 93 percentile height, 98.6 percentile 40, 97.7 percentile splits, 91.5 percentile vertical, 99.2 percentile broad jump. Kyler Murray Multi-sport 1st-round draftee, otherworldly agility, great speed, strong arm Byron Murphy One of the less athletic Keim picks, but likely would have tested really well in the shuttle and three-cone. But yeah, not a great athlete. Andy Isabella 98.9 percentile 40 Josh Rosen Good size at 6'4", 226, but below average as an athlete. Christian Kirk 82.3 percentile hands, 4.47 40, 89 percentile 10-yard split, 88.6 percentile bench Haason Reddick 99.7 percentile 40, 99.4 percentile 20, 97 percentile 10, 89.5 percentile vertical, 99.7 percentile broad jump, 91.3 percentile 3-cone Budda Baker 92.3 percentile 40, 90.2 percentile 20, 84.4 percentile shuttle, 89.6 percentile 3-cone. Robert Nkemdiche 94.5 percentile 40, 90.3 percentile 20, 96.2 percentile 10, 97.6 percentile vertical, 96.3 percentile broad jump. DJ Humphries 82.7 percentile 40, 85.5 percentile vertical Markus Golden Eek. High-effort. Deone Bucannon 89.1 percentile 40, 90.6 percentile 10, 83.3 percentile broad jump Troy Niklas Not your typical Keim pick. Big and strong, but not explosive. 95.3 percentile height, 94.1 percentile weight, 93.5 percentile bench Jonathan Cooper 91.8 percentile 40, 95.5 percentile 20, 95.1 percentile bench, 83.1 percentile broad jump and Kevin Minter All in the first two rounds. Like, in general, you see a lot of Keim eschewing standard conventions about size and targeting smaller guys who are really speedy or explosive. So yeah, he could be a Raiders GM! The browns are heading that way too. Under sachi, myles, peppers, and njoku were very athletic picks. Ward is a sparq freak, chubb is too. Jedrick Wils and Delphit are great athletes and was donovan peoples jones. Nothing wrong with picking athletes imo, not many non athlete football players make it. Scooby wright is a good example.high motor, football iq, not nfl quality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: Nothing wrong with picking athletes imo, not many non athlete football players make it. Scooby wright is a good example.high motor, football iq, not nfl quality Right. The thing that's Keim's Achilles heel is drafting guys who are great athletes, but don't really have a defined position. Those guys take a lot longer to develop, and a lot of those tweeners need stability and/or systems built around them. I'm talking about guys like Deone Bucannon, Haason Reddick, or Isaiah Simmons. Guys who either can't just be an every-down player their expected position because of size limitations, no matter how athletic they are, or guys who are TOO versatile with their skill-set that Keim won't commit to them at any one place, instead giving them limited snaps and a questionable role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 2:51 AM, Kiwibrown said: For the Browns. Nate Orchard. He was a small medium paced at best olb/pass rusher for the browns. Had a couple of good games against bad competition- truly nothing special on the field. Mitchell Schwartz. He is a slow moving guy who became the best pass blocking rt in the nfl for the chiefs. Early in his career got dominated by Khalil mack. His biggest asset his how enormous he is. He is massive. Danny Shelton IMO is the least athletic by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 In actual thought - Texans draft higher end athletes in the 1/2, but DT Amobi Okoye comes to mind. It seems like he was drafted simply because he was 19 years old. Brian Cushing was a fraud in regards to his athletic ability - so he also qualifies. Kareem Jackson wasn't an athletic marvel, but was savvy as hell - he actually worked out very well as a Texan. Texans usually take athletes in the 1/2, and go 3rd round and on for the low upside athletes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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